Silver Surfer (Full Potential) vs Wonder Woman, Superman and Martian Manhunter

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SoulDevourer M0DERAT0R

k if team 3 DINT hold back then they could get majority wins, but SS can still use his speed to dodge (or escape 😄)

SoulDevourer M0DERAT0R

Originally posted by Omega Vision
I love these stipulations, they're tailor made for a Surfer spite-stomp. You put one guy at 100% vs three ppl with CIS on who aren't fighting to their fullest. MM with CIS on is ****ing useless, WW at less than full potential is barely top tier and CIS Superman forgets he has powers other than super strength.
exacly

FrothByte Nailcutter Massacre

wait, where is it stated that SS is imune to telepathy? i know he's resistant... but resistant is not the same as immune.

Philosophía "The devil made me do it"

Originally posted by Omega Vision
WW at less than full potential is barely top tier

Define top tier.

And then expand that stance.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
CIS Superman forgets he has powers other than super strength.

That's a mob opinion-based, unsupported view that shows a lack of knowledge on the character.

Omega Vision Face Flowed Into Her Eyes

Originally posted by Philosophía
Define top tier.

And then expand that stance.

That's a mob opinion-based, unsupported view that shows a lack of knowledge on the character.


Top Tier meaning someone who can hang with the likes of Superman. Case in point: Superman For Tomorrow had Wonder Woman take her magical sword out and still manage to get bitchslapped like an uppity child. She was written to less than full potential. So was everyone other than Superman in that story: Kyle Rayner acted like a rank amateur that needed Superman to save him and Batman acted like a complete dumbass and tried to beat up Superman with kicks and punches while Superman explained that he was really just playing with him and if he were to stand still and let Bruce hit him every bone in his arm would break.

Wonder Woman at less than full potential doesn't use her gear or her speed to their fullest. I wasn't saying WW isn't top tier
As far as CIS Superman goes I suppose I was thinking PIS Superman instead. PIS Superman fights as if he were a standard brick. CIS Superman won't kill even if it means saving the entire planet and always holds back.

Philosophía "The devil made me do it"

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Top Tier meaning someone who can hang with the likes of Superman.

That's seriously your definition of top-tier ? Can you, I don't know, enlarge that category to include other categories and levels of competence ?

Omega Vision Face Flowed Into Her Eyes

Originally posted by Philosophía
That's seriously your definition of top-tier ? Can you, I don't know, enlarge that category to include other categories and levels of competence ?

To me Top Tier and Herald have lots of overlap. Me I consider Superman a Herald level character. Wonder Woman is Top Tier because she is in the elite in terms of speed, strength, and skill.
Top Tier character should never have trouble with street levelers in a no- PIS/CIS situation and should be able to give Heralds a hard time.
Hulk, Wonder Woman Thor, Superman, and Martian Manhunter are Top Tiers while GLs are a little more difficult to define since they can alternate between Herald and Top Tier depending on which GL it is and how they are written.

Endless Mike Sqirrel Girl fanboy

Under these conditions I would say that Surfer wins

Rage.Of.Olympus Senior Member

Silver Surfer.

xJLxKing Senior Member

There are a few bias or just plain weird people

h1a8 Senior Member

CIS is a very powerful disadvantage indeed. With that said, I'd be hard pressed to believe that Surfer taking a majority since the team has basic knowledge on Surfer before the fight and knows he's out to kill.

Philosophía "The devil made me do it"
Originally posted by Omega Vision
To me Top Tier and Herald have lots of overlap. Me I consider Superman a Herald level character. Wonder Woman is Top Tier because she is in the elite in terms of speed, strength, and skill.
Top Tier character should never have trouble with street levelers in a no- PIS/CIS situation and should be able to give Heralds a hard time.
Hulk, Wonder Woman Thor, Superman, and Martian Manhunter are Top Tiers while GLs are a little more difficult to define since they can alternate between Herald and Top Tier depending on which GL it is and how they are written.

So it's pretty much:

Heralds
Top Tiers
The rest ?

Then you first say that you put Superman at Herald Level.. and then Top Tier aswell ?

And you still haven't pointed out why you consider Wonder Woman at anything less than full potential barely a top tier ? Because Superman, for who you don't even have a clear ranking in mind, beats her ?

Like I said, expand this a bit better. Define each class, give examples of characters in them and why you think one is there and the other is not.

celeyhyga17 Yawning Void

team stomps

Omega Vision Face Flowed Into Her Eyes

Originally posted by Philosophía
So it's pretty much:

Heralds
Top Tiers
The rest ?

Then you first say that you put Superman at Herald Level.. and then Top Tier aswell ?

And you still haven't pointed out why you consider Wonder Woman at anything less than full potential barely a top tier ? Because Superman, for who you don't even have a clear ranking in mind, beats her ?

Like I said, expand this a bit better. Define each class, give examples of characters in them and why you think one is there and the other is not.


Superman is Top Tier but he has Herald Feats. Wonder Woman has been beaten by Batman using pressure points which is distinctly less than a Top Tier showing (granted she was blind-folded) but at full potential she would be too fast for Batman to even touch her.

Spire Senior Member

Hahaha wtf?

xJLxKing Senior Member

My thoughts exactly