Mandrakk runs a gauntlet

Originally posted by xJLxKing
Vertigo and DC aren't separated.

I thought Mandrakk threads were supposed to be closed? He beats most on this list and falls to a few

13.

Originally posted by quanchi112
So they aren't two separate realities?

Originally posted by quanchi112
So they aren't two separate realities?

Originally posted by Juntai
They are separate. Vertigo isn't even a consistent universe.

Both DC and Vertigo are in the same realm. Some of it's in continuity and some of it's not. We've seen both characters cross over. Recently, Phantom Stranger is in Madam Xanaduu series.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Think of the PM and Presence in these terms:
The Presence is the supreme fish in a pond while the PM is like a man throwing fish food into the pond. The PM isn't part of the DCU proper, not even to the extent that the Presence is external, he's outside of creation: he's on the level of the reader. Indeed the PM is the reader (or writer, its not that clear).

Any decent high end reality warper could blink out Galactus. MJJ certainly could, so could EJ and Mxy. Hell WF Mxy was killing the Spectre's alternate versions for fun.

Anyway, when reality was being destroyed and all the heroes were getting twisted and distorted by the IG battle, Galactus was still able to fight through it and summon his ship. Hell, the guy was standing at the edge of time and space eating shit. I doubt any decent reality warper could blink him out, and I really doubt MJJ could do it.

Originally posted by Blanket
I can almost guarantee you're also against arguments such as Beyonder is the editor...

Anyway, when reality was being destroyed and all the heroes were getting twisted and distorted by the IG battle, Galactus was still able to fight through it and summon his ship. Hell, the guy was standing at the edge of time and space eating shit. I doubt any decent reality warper could blink him out, and I really doubt MJJ could do it.

exactly.
no one short of LT can blink Galactus out of existence

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Like all things pertaining to DC comics its really complicated. The Phantom Stranger and Zatanna exist in both while Superman usually only exists in DC and John Constantine of late only exists in Vertigo. Less clear is the Spectre and Swamp Thing.

Originally posted by Juntai
They are separate. Vertigo isn't even a consistent universe.

Originally posted by quanchi112
No, they exist in separate realities though as a whole. Didio further backed this up in an interview when asked this very question.

Agreed.

Vertigo is a number of universes, but the one where it features DC characters is apart of the multiverse as stated by DD.

I ain't touching this with a 10-ft green stake.

baha

Primal Monitor can't be the Presence. The Presence interacts too much in Vertigo/DC. The Presence knows and gives power to Spectre. Also, the Presence interacts with Michael and Lucifer.

The Primal Monitor knew nothing of them...well, DC anyway....I'd imagine that Vertigo would be a germ too..lol. The PM knew nothing of DC/maybe Vertigo until he noticed a germ and sent Mandrakk

Originally posted by Tattoos N Scars
Primal Monitor can't be the Presence. The Presence interacts too much in Vertigo/DC. The Presence knows and gives power to Spectre. Also, the Presence interacts with Michael and Lucifer.

The Primal Monitor knew nothing of them...well, DC anyway....I'd imagine that Vertigo would be a germ too..lol. The PM knew nothing of DC/maybe Vertigo until he noticed a germ and sent Mandrakk

That's a good point.