Norwegian Spiral anomaly

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Norwegian Spiral anomaly

You´d all probably seen this in the newspaper/news etc, it is one of the weirdest things Ive ever seen any one have any ideas what it could be?

The black bit in the middle certainly looks very black compared to the surrounding space, giving rise to "Star gate" speculation.

Most probably some magnetic particle phenomenon like the Northern Lights, maybe the SOHO satellite picked up a rise in solar activity

I titled the thread "anomaly" instead of "UFO" to save is from the conspiracy corner.

Here´s the video, there´s also lots of photographs out there.

YouTube video

There´s a similar video from 2006 in Russia

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGrRTdolTv4

You are all idiots, all that is coming from Norway's leading giant, making smoke rings with his cigarettes. Typical thinking it's something more out there.

He wasn't smoking when I was over skiing in Norway though, so it's not really fair that I just get to see it on a video.

Re: Norwegian Spiral anomaly

Originally posted by Bicnarok
Most probably some magnetic particle phenomenon like the Northern Lights, maybe the SOHO satellite picked up a rise in solar activity

That would be most likely imo.

Anyone speak chinese here.

Found another video of a similar event in china, and the chap in the video seems to know what he´s talking about.🙂

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNHEmrjRe5Q

Told you guys to be ready for 2012. They're coming for us!

But its 2009 or are our dates wrong🙂

I have confesion to make...I'm a big fan of all this 2012 stuff so anything like this is a thrill for me.

They're coming!

Anything for an exciting life eh🙂

YES!

I just want my spiritual awakening to happen by then.

But please...don't take me as a fanatic. I just read stuff to be informed.

Sorry to hijack your thread Bicarnock but I just saw the most amazing thing ever. Standing at my window smoking a cigarette I look above to see an extremely bright star, I couldn't stare at it due to it's brightness. It then got dimmer and started to move across the sky except it circled a little and went right back to where I initially saw it at it's brightest. I stared at it for about 5 minutes but after going back to it's original position it didn't move at all and looks no different than any other star. I can't explain what the hell that is / was. Couldn't have been a star, planet, satellite, plane, helicopter or any other kind of space debris. This thing was in space since it was very small and dim after the initial blinding intensity of it. I am really amazed at what I've just seen.

Anyone consider earth lights as a possibility?

Bizarre Sky Spiral Caused by Failed Missile
Clara Moskowitz
livescience.com

http://www.livescience.com/space/091210-norway-spiral-missile-cloud.html

A spectacular spiral light show in the sky above Norway Wednesday was caused by a Russian missile that failed just after launch, according to Russia's defense ministry.

When the rocket motor spun out of control, it likely created the heavenly spiral of white light near where the missile was launched from a submarine in the White Sea. The Russian defense ministry confirmed to the Itar-Tass news agency that a Bulava ballistic missile test had failed.

"This cloud was very spectacular, and when we looked at the videos people submitted to the media, we quickly concluded that it looked like a rocket or missile out of control, thus the spiraling effect," Paal Brekke, a senior advisor at the Norwegian Space Centre Drammensvn, told SPACE.com. "I think this is the first time we have seen such a display from a launch failure."

The phenomenon was seen by people all over northern Norway.

"It was a fairly stunning display, and we were really surprised to see it so well observed," Brekke said.

Viewers described an eerie white cloud with a piercing blue-green beam coming out of it.

"It consisted initially of a green beam of light similar in color to the aurora with a mysterious rotating spiral at one end," Nick Banbury of Harstad, Norway told Spaceweather.com. "This spiral then got bigger and bigger until it turned into a huge halo in the sky with the green beam extending down to Earth."

Banbury said he saw the lights on his way to work between 7:50 and 8:00 a.m. local time, or 1:50 and 2:00 a.m. EST (0650 and 7000 GMT).

"We are used to seeing lots of auroras here in Norway, but this was different," he said.

Before the missile test was confirmed, many people suggested the bright light pattern might have been a UFO. Russia finally admitted to the accident, which is an embarrassing mishap for a rocket that had already failed six of 13 previous tests, according to the BBC.

The Bulava missile is designed to carry six individually targeted nuclear warheads over a range of 6,200 miles (10,000 km), the BBC reported.

Most important to note: Russia did not immediately claim responsibility (as a cover-up) but was pressured into admitting something embarrassing.

Almost worth a thread of its own, check out the mother****ing Bulava missile: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RSM-56_Bulava

So Russia is getting really jumpy with its cheap knock off of the peacekeeper huh?

Strange 'Norway Spiral' was an Out-of-Control Missile
Maggie McKee
New Scientist

http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn18262-strange-norway-spiral-likely-an-outofcontrol-missile.html

Update: The Russian Defense Ministry confirmed on Thursday that it launched a Bulava missile on Wednesday and that the missile's third stage failed

It looked like a time-travelling vortex fit for Doctor Who, but a strange spiral observed in the skies above Norway on Wednesday morning was actually a failed Russian missile launch, says a Harvard astrophysicist who monitors space launches.

The giant, glowing white spiral was reportedly visible all over northern Norway between about 0645 and 0700 GMT. "It consisted initially of a green beam of light similar in colour to the aurora with a mysterious rotating spiral at one end," eye witness Nick Banbury of Harstad said, according to Spaceweather.com. "This spiral then got bigger and bigger until it turned into a huge halo in the sky with the green beam extending down to Earth."

Speculation that it was a bright meteor was quickly dismissed – in part because the apparition lasted for too long to be an incoming space rock. Suspicion then turned to an out-of-control missile.

That is exactly what it was, says Jonathan McDowell, an astrophysicist at the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics in Cambridge, Massachusetts, and author of Jonathan's Space Report, a fortnightly email newsletter about space launches. "It's definitely a missile launch failure," he told New Scientist.

'Embarrassing setback'

He says it was most likely a failed test of Russia's submarine-launched Bulava ballistic missile, which is intended to be able to evade missile-defence systems.

"We know that the Russian Navy submarine Dmitry Donskoy is in the White Sea and was preparing for the 12th test launch of the Bulava missile, which has had numerous failures," he says.

Of the missile's 11 previous launches since 2005, six have been failures, a track record that might explain why Russia has reportedly denied a Wednesday launch, McDowell says: "This could be because another Bulava failure is a huge and embarrassing setback for their programme."

Spewing flame

Just how would a missile be able to create such a perfect spiral? McDowell says the shape suggests the failure occurred well above the atmosphere. If it had occurred at lower altitudes, atmospheric drag would have caused the missile to fall quickly to Earth, creating a downward-pointing corkscrew pattern whose contrails would have been blown "this way and that" by wind, he told New Scientist.

The Bulava missile has three stages that fire in succession as it climbs up in altitude. "Probably what happened is that stages 1 and 2 did just fine and were discarded in turn, and then stage 3 started burning and almost immediately went wrong," McDowell says.

He says the third stage's nozzle, which directs the rocket's exhaust plume, may have fallen off or been punctured, causing the exhaust to come out sideways instead of out the back. "The sideways thrust sends the rocket into a spin, spewing flame as it goes," he says.

"If thrust was terminated right away, then you wouldn't see the spiral," he continues. "The unusual thing this time is that the missile was allowed to carry on firing for a bit after it went wrong."

most relevant bits are in bold

Originally posted by Darth Jello
So Russia is getting really jumpy with its cheap knock off of the peacekeeper huh?

I'm more interested in their countermeasures. The peacekeeper has a big payload, but wasn't designed with penetrating missile shields in mind.

it seems that missile defense shields have been rendered moot before the technology to create them is existent. Go Russia...

Originally posted by inimalist
I'm more interested in their countermeasures. The peacekeeper has a big payload, but wasn't designed with penetrating missile shields in mind.

Uh, yes it was.

Hence all the warheads inside the nose cone ready to launch upon penetration of enemy airspace.

"The United States' Peacekeeper missile was a MIRVed delivery system. Each missile could contain up to ten nuclear warheads (shown in red), each of which could be aimed at a different target. These were developed to make missile defense very difficult for an enemy country."

Originally posted by Darth Jello
Uh, yes it was.

Hence all the warheads inside the nose cone ready to launch upon penetration of enemy airspace.

"The United States' Peacekeeper missile was a MIRVed delivery system. Each missile could contain up to ten nuclear warheads (shown in red), each of which could be aimed at a different target. These were developed to make missile defense very difficult for an enemy country."

fair enough, I meant stuff like this:

The Russian military developed Bulava to possess advanced defense capabilities making it nearly impervious to existing and future missile-defense systems. Among its claimed abilities are evasive maneuvering, mid-course countermeasures and decoys and a warhead fully shielded against both physical and Electromagnetic pulse damage. The Bulava is designed to be capable of surviving a nuclear blast at a minimum distance of 500 meters.[3] Prime minister Putin has claimed that Bulava could penetrate any potential anti-missile defence system.

This bolded one is important for first strike capability. Because the Bulava could survive such a close detention, they can be targeted in close proximity. This allows them to target American missile silos that were built in close proximity for this very reason (hard to target because incoming warheads would explode each other).

If I'm the only one who sees it as impressive, cool

Originally posted by inimalist
fair enough, I meant stuff like this:

This bolded one is important for first strike capability. Because the Bulava could survive such a close detention, they can be targeted in close proximity. This allows them to target American missile silos that were built in close proximity for this very reason (hard to target because incoming warheads would explode each other).

If I'm the only one who sees it as impressive, cool

uh yeah, and if my grandmother had wheels she'd be a wagon. Sounds like posturing to me since at least some of those things seem physically impossible.