Batdude123 and TheKahn's Holiday Herald Tournament

So I take it characters like super adaptoid/absorbing man/space phantom are banned via the power copying rule?

Originally posted by King Kandy
So I take it characters like super adaptoid/absorbing man/space phantom are banned via the power copying rule?

Originally posted by King Kandy
So I take it characters like super adaptoid/absorbing man/space phantom are banned via the power copying rule?

Essentially, yes. You can go ahead and add in Amazo (just in case anyone was wondering) to the banned list.

The reason is that more "creative" individuals in past debates have used characters like that to create duplicate armies of characters to take down the opposing team (ingenious - yes, but not exactly fair). 😐

Aww man 😬

Originally posted by Zeuodin
Since when does Absorbing man copy powers? He absorbs stuff he touches. That isn't the same thing.

IIRC, hasn't he mimicked Thor's strength before? 😕

Originally posted by iceman24567
Aww man 😬

Don't be too down. While those tactics/powersets aren't allowed, I assure you that there are a great deal of ways to mesh characters powers and stay within the rules....you just have to think outside the box a little 😖hifty:

Originally posted by TheKahn
IIRC, hasn't he mimicked Thor's strength before? 😕

Can't use Vixen i suppose?

Originally posted by iceman24567
Can't use Vixen i suppose?

The typical version of Vixen that's attached to the Red and mimics animal powers - yes
The temporary version where the God Anansi messed up her power allowing her to copy metapowers - no

I'm just figuring out ways to cheat i should be ashamed of myself but I'm not 🙂

Originally posted by TheKahn
Essentially, yes. You can go ahead and add in Amazo (just in case anyone was wondering) to the banned list.

The reason is that more "creative" individuals in past debates have used characters like that to create duplicate armies of characters to take down the opposing team (ingenious - yes, but not exactly fair). 😐

Originally posted by iceman24567
I'm just figuring out ways to cheat i should be ashamed of myself but I'm not 🙂

If you're not pushing the limits, then you're not trying hard enough. 😉

Actually with all the Kryptonians, Daxamites, Lantern Corps, and the recent cosmic events in Marvel, I'm really looking forward to seeing the kinds of teams people put together and how they use them. hmm

Originally posted by darthgoober
That was me 😄 ...

And it was a brilliant tactic as evidenced by the rules needing to be changed because of it. 😉

Originally posted by TheKahn
And it was a brilliant tactic as evidenced by the rules needing to be changed because of it. 😉

hmm, i might be willing to team with someone if THEY are willing to do most of the work! 😄

Originally posted by leonidas
hmm, i might be willing to team with someone if THEY are willing to do most of the work! 😄

Originally posted by darthgoober
Are there going to be any other limitations on "instant tech"? Given the popularity of the tactic and certain people knowing how to create stuff like the Miracle Machine you might want to set some guidelines on what's allowed in that area...

Good point. I'm willing to allow some creation of tech during prep time provided that:
1. the team actually has the knowlege and abilty to create it
2. the possession of such tech does not push any individual or team past the herald limit (ie reality manipulation on any level, time manipulation, altering physical laws, etc)

But if you wanted to create a battle suit or armor for a less durable character, that's perfectly acceptable (and probably a good idea anyway)

Originally posted by leonidas
hmm, i might be willing to team with someone if THEY are willing to do most of the work! 😄

Hmmmm, how much is most?

Originally posted by TheKahn
Good point. I'm willing to allow some creation of tech during prep time provided that:
1. the team actually has the knowlege and abilty to create it
2. the possession of such tech does not push any individual or team past the herald limit (ie reality manipulation on any level, time manipulation, altering physical laws, etc)

But if you wanted to create a battle suit or armor for a less durable character, that's perfectly acceptable (and probably a good idea anyway)

Originally posted by darthgoober
What about those characters who already represent the "pinnacle" of the Herald tier? I mean if the cap is guys like Supes, Thor, GL, and Surfer then wouldn't pretty much ANY improvement on those characters put them beyond the cap if the cap for both the drafting and the "final products" during the match is "herald level"?

I understand what you're saying, but I think there is a clear gap between say the Silver Surfer and Thanos (or Superman and Superboy Prime) that not even a significant boost can close.

Keep in mind that teams will be limited by time, resources, lack of experience with new powers, and each character's personal weaknesses when trying to mesh their powers before each fight. Plus the other team will be actively trying to diminish to altogether counter any boost or strategy you manage to come up with. So I think it will all even out.