I know next to nothing about him but I wouldn't mind defending Kenshiro while learning about him at the same time. I heard one time he was slapping aound Superboy or knocking planets around or something like that but I assume that if that is true then it was PC era. If he can slap around Kryptonians and keep up with them now then Ken is more than likely in some trouble.
Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
I know next to nothing about him but I wouldn't mind defending Kenshiro while learning about him at the same time. I heard one time he was slapping aound Superboy or knocking planets around or something like that but I assume that if that is true then it was PC era. If he can slap around Kryptonians and keep up with them now then Ken is more than likely in some trouble.
Stalemate at best, he was also trained specifically to fight against metas. IMO he and Kenshiro are pretty equal in the sence of being top dogs of MA... it would be an epic fight to see.
And Thor in unarmed combat? Beating of infants I smell here, with Mongoose showing and the likes of that abused to no end. Ken is one of those "perfect antibricks" IMO, as long as the brick in question isn't famous for its blitzing H2H feats.
I don't bring my personal tastes in the wishlist... me and Avlon have already made friendly Dante vs Superman battlezone (sort of) and it satisfied my ego (given Avlon's tastes)... Dante vs Ares (Marvel) would have been cool if not for Ares being relatively slow and relatively jobber...thus onesided battle IMO.
Originally posted by Charlotte DeBel
Stalemate at best, he was also trained specifically to fight against metas. IMO he and Kenshiro are pretty equal in the sence of being top dogs of MA... it would be an epic fight to see.And Thor in unarmed combat? Beating of infants I smell here, with Mongoose showing and the likes of that abused to no end. Ken is one of those "perfect antibricks" IMO, as long as the brick in question isn't famous for its blitzing H2H feats.
I don't bring my personal tastes in the wishlist... me and Avlon have already made friendly Dante vs Superman battlezone (sort of) and it satisfied my ego (given Avlon's tastes)... Dante vs Ares (Marvel) would have been cool if not for Ares being relatively slow and relatively jobber...thus onesided battle IMO.
Yes, Ares does need to step his game up. He seems to be on the road of doing that, but as they are right now I'd have to give the victory to Dante and I can't stand him anymore. I'm sorry but DMC3 and 4 ruined him for me. I liked him in DMC2 though. How about a little Emma Frost with the Mind Gem vs Kain. I bet that would make your day. 😛
Here's a funny little discussion that went on in the game vs forum. IT was about Bullet Bills from Super Mario being the speed of normal bullets. They then tried to apply real world physics to a Mario game.
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Mario can jump on bullets, lift castles, and fly through space. 😐 He wins on his own. Facotring that luigi is here too, and they both have an asshload of power ups, this is spite.
Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
By bullets, do you mean bullet bills? They move extremely slow, nowhere near as fast as an actual bullet. Oh, and I don't know why Bowser still has them in his army. They do more harm than good.How big were the castles?
I assume that you mean in Super Mario Galaxy. Flying through space is irrelevant in this thread, unless if the battle takes place in outer space.
Originally posted by NemeBro
Bullet Bills are the size of cars and move sloooooow. 😐Lift castles and barely lift King Bob Omb.
Fly though space? Did not play Galaxies, elaborate nao.
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Space is a ridiculously hostile environment, it's impressive.Annd you're making the mistake of confusing what the player can see, with how fast things move in canon. A bullet would be unable to sustain flight/trajectory if it actually moved that slow 😬 Mario can clearly handle it.
Ever been inside a castle in SMW?
Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
When he has a luma in his hat, he can breath in space....so what? Does that somehow make him more powerful? And one could argue that when Sora and Riku were fighting Armored Xemnas #2 in that void there might have been no air. Heck, it's likely, since it was all blackish despite the fact that there were (as far as I remember) light sources, and air is not blackish. Not only were they flying in it, but they were bouncing back buildings.
Are you seriously trying to use physics to describe Mario's feats???? 😂
How come in Super Mario Galaxy black holes can be at the center of a planet and somehow not suck the planet in? How can the "planets" (many of which are the size of a house) have a large enough gravitational field to keep Mario walking on them? How come the "galaxies" are in reality smaller than a neighborhood block? Why does Bowser's army still use ships that look like 18th century pirate ships?
The bills are sustained through some sort of hovering mechanism (like helicopters) or simply magic. And any random guy worth his salt can dodge those things, considering their sub par speed.
@the castle part:
How big is it? Did Mario litterally lift the same castle that was the same size?
PLEASE don't tell me that it was just on an overworld map and was just a representation:
In the Total War series, your troops are bigger than cities on the overworld map. Does that mean that they are? Of course not! It's just a representation.
Mario and Luigi are nowhere near Sora and Riku in power. You know how Mario typically has a few hps (ranging from 1 to about 3) and every times he gets hit he loses one? Well, Sora in final form can hit a rates of quite possibly (although I haven't timed it) over 10 a SECOND. Also, even if bullet bills were as fast as bullets, I could counter by saying that Sora could dodge LASERS like in the final battle. Also, Sora has shown teleportation.
Originally posted by fascistcrusader
Wow, Nintendo fans just don't get it, do they? Mario and Luigi have fun games, but to suggest they can actually defeat Sora and Riku is laughable. They're plumbers with toon force feats for god's sake. The "castle" Mario lifted was barely bigger than he was, him throwing it was just for humor like when one of the castle's accidentally blows up in his face. They can't actually live in space. SMG "planets" have diameters of like 50 feet at they're largest and they're only a hundred feet apart at best. The game isn't actually suggesting Mario can survive a vaccum, once again, it's just a fun visual. And to say they can jump on bullets? LOL. Bullet Bills are not as fast as real bullets.Seriously. It's okay to like Nintendo, I'm a big fan of their games myself. The problem is when fandom becomes fanboyism and you try to use joke feats to make all of Nintendo's character "teh ub3r bezt EVAR!!!!!!111!!!"
What you're doing is like trying to say Peter Griffin >>>>>>>> Hercules because in a joke cutaway they have him surviving the vacuum of space and laughing after he was sucked out of his suit. Don't confuse real feats with silliness.
Originally posted by NemeBro
Show me.Prove they are the speed of a bullet or shut up. Bullet Bills are not real bullets, they are sentient beings, ever consider they have the ability to, I don't know, fly? 😱
Ever lifted King Bob Omb in SM64?
The only game with feats like that are in SMW, which clearly deviate from the norm in the series, since other times he struggles to lift far lighter weights.
Originally posted by Sin_Volvagia
The castle lift was clearly toon force just like his magical window wiper, surviving an exploding castle at close range with a black face w/ wide eyes, and a hill getting a white x when struck by a projectile.As for the other powerups, they're nothing Sora hasn't already encountered before.
And seriously, jump on bullets? A mushroom can outrun those "bullets" and its not faster than my cat.
Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Yes, Ares does need to step his game up. He seems to be on the road of doing that, but as they are right now I'd have to give the victory to Dante and I can't stand him anymore. I'm sorry but DMC3 and 4 ruined him for me. I liked him in DMC2 though. How about a little Emma Frost with the Mind Gem vs Kain. I bet that would make your day. 😛Here's a funny little discussion that went on in the game vs forum. IT was about Bullet Bills from Super Mario being the speed of normal bullets. They then tried to apply real world physics to a Mario game.
You know I don't like Kain mostly due to BT. Also TPwise Kain sucks... Inspire Hate spell and that's all he wrote.
DMC3... well, a little overdone with "brainless youth", and DMC4... suffering from hardcore "Sherlock Holmes syndrome" (AKA the case of acting weird due to the boredom of not having good opponents- pretty much the only thing he didn't try was cocaine and that's because drugs won't work on him) and over-the-top thing with Lucifer. DMC2 was "lone tragic hero", which is understandable given that chronologically our whitehaired half-demon is around 50 years old by that point (the game is set in 2020 or something like that) and apparently had many of his mortal companions killed by that point.
I also remember me and my close friend tried to have forum battle with me debating for Ares and him for Dante (DMC1 power level but with styles from DMC3 in play). I got owned epically and reminded why it's dumb to go against way faster opponent while lacking long range options.
Originally posted by Wei PhoenixI see no problem here.
Yes, Ares does need to step his game up. He seems to be on the road of doing that, but as they are right now I'd have to give the victory to Dante and I can't stand him anymore. I'm sorry but DMC3 and 4 ruined him for me. I liked him in DMC2 though. How about a little Emma Frost with the Mind Gem vs Kain. I bet that would make your day. 😛Here's a funny little discussion that went on in the game vs forum. IT was about Bullet Bills from Super Mario being the speed of normal bullets. They then tried to apply real world physics to a Mario game.