Star Trek to drop socialism

What do you guys think.

Agreed.

What does that mean?
The future where money doesn't exist anymore and everyone works for the betterment of the world & the federation - that's no more?

roughrider posted:

" The future where money doesn't exist anymore and everyone works for the betterment of the world & the federation - that's no more?"

Indeed, the state should not run everything.

The Starfleet stories make Trek Trek anyway.

Well, up here in Canada we have strands of socialism in our policies. We appreciate it and don't look at it as a bugaboo.

Yes but you dont have such an ubermistified government like one in Trek.

They have a borderline religious belief in their own government.

They dont just have social policies, i never heard about anyone inside the Federation not working for the government.

I think thats unhealthy.

Originally posted by Shey Tapani
Yes but you dont have such an ubermistified government like one in Trek.

They have a borderline religious belief in their own government.

They dont just have social policies, i never heard about anyone inside the Federation not working for the government.

I think thats unhealthy.

the federation citizens?

Yes.

Is any of them not working for the government?

Why would that not be healthy?

bit late, but:

Originally posted by Shey Tapani
Yes.

Is any of them not working for the government?

tons.

I never even thought of it as a government. They always just seemed like one big nondescript group.

Originally posted by Red Nemesis
Why would that not be healthy?

Too much power in to few hands.

The socialism was a progression of future earth's history though didn't it? .... a swing that occurred after the factionism/infighting/chucking nukes about...?

I am not that familiar with trek canon.

The Federation is run by a centralised Federation Council, with representatives from all the major members, and a democratically elected president (iirc).

The Federation itself is more of a united nations of sorts. Starfleet is the military/exploration arm of the Federation.

The belief in the Federation being some sort of religious entity is a minority view. To most people, it's just a group of planets helping each other out.

Money didn't exist in this reality!

How can money or a Stock Market exist when you can make anything you want! Gold, Art, MONEY!!!!!!!!

People earned respect in their feats and sacrifices. Bums got fed and lived their lives....sounds perfect.

Originally posted by the ninjak
Money didn't exist in this reality!

How can money or a Stock Market exist when you can make anything you want! Gold, Art, MONEY!!!!!!!!

People earned respect in their feats and sacrifices. Bums got fed and lived their lives....sounds perfect.

Money does exist in Star Trek, and certain forms of currency can't actually be replicated.

The Federation does have a monetary unit, but it's not used by citizens that much if at all.

Originally posted by -Pr-
The Federation is run by a centralised Federation Council, with representatives from all the major members, and a democratically elected president (iirc).

The Federation itself is more of a united nations of sorts. Starfleet is the military/exploration arm of the Federation.

The belief in the Federation being some sort of religious entity is a minority view. To most people, it's just a group of planets helping each other out.

Originally posted by Kinneary
I always saw the Federation as more of the USA, where each world becomes a 'state.' For example, when the USA went to war with Iraq all of the UN wasn't sucked in. But in the Federation, if they declare war, all planets are immediately at war. It's the same reason that Bajor couldn't become a member of the UFP - they would have immediately been at war with the Dominion.

You could look at it that way, sure.

The reason I brought up the UN parallels is because you have very different worlds, ideologies and cultures coming together under the banner of peace and cooperation.