Thor, GL(Hal) vs Orion, Gladiator.

Started by WickedDynamite4 pages

Originally posted by quanchi112
The hammer grants you the power of Thor. Without it he is still a force though he has relied on his hammer too much, but the power is still his power.

All you have to do to Thor is say,"You can't beat me without your hammer.," and he will usually toss it away himself even if it risks turning him back into some lame twerp.

Thor's a man's man.

Then he's a weak god....Diana has fought without her lasso and arm bands and still win.

In a pure fight H2H Thor couldn't even beat Sentry. HA!

Originally posted by WickedDynamite
Then he's a weak god....Diana has fought without her lasso and arm bands and still win.

In a pure fight H2H Thor couldn't even beat Sentry. HA!

Thor beat Durok an opponent who previously beat him without his hammer.

Diana could never match the Hulk's amping strength like Thor has. MM just failed against the Sentry so..........

I think we might actually get to see Thor an dthe Sentry go at it next year.

Originally posted by quanchi112

I think we might actually get to see Thor an dthe Sentry go at it next year.

My money is on Sentry....this current Thor isn't impressive (at least in my eyes)

Originally posted by WickedDynamite
My money is on Sentry....this current Thor isn't impressive (at least in my eyes)
How isn't he impressive? Are you cheering for the sentry because you dislike Thor?

Originally posted by quanchi112
How isn't he impressive? Are you cheering for the sentry because you dislike Thor?

*cough*Rulk*cough*

Originally posted by WickedDynamite
*cough*Rulk*cough*
He beat Rulk the very next issue and Rulk beat the Gm to death in a few blows and ko'd a Watcher like he was bruce wayne. 😉

Originally posted by quanchi112
He beat Rulk the very next issue

Pyrrhic victory

Originally posted by WickedDynamite
Pyrrhic victory
The only reason he won was his location as he used Thor's hammer in space as silly as it was to temporarily beat Thor. Thor came back and practically killed him in a few blows. Without Thor's hammer I don't see Rulk beating him.

His showing against rulk wasnt a low showing. Personally thor would kill sentry prior to being a Molecule manipulator. And after it all depends on his ability to withstand molecule manipulator, and guess what, like superman has T-VO to help against psychic attacks, thor will have something to save him from that form of attack. Thor is Marvels main man, he aint falling to sentry

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
I'm curious how a Gladiator from the future, who lost the fight, who is able to temporarily stop a Thor who is holding back, proves how speed is Doom for Thor. The only thing that proves, is how Odin's enchantment is doom for Thor 😐
Maybe I missed this but where does it say he was holding back? From the looks of it he was trying as hard as he could. Enchantment’s fine it still caused a K.O and it was done via speed blitz something Thor failed to react to. Now lawest9 asked for an incident and I provided one. Again the K.O occurred because Gladiator was cheapshoted after they saved the plane but I don't want to this turn into a Thor vs Gladiator thread.

I was merely telling to Quanchi that Gladiator has done well against Thor.

Team 1 imo. Just better for me.

T1

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Considering Glads was bloodlusted, had prep so-to-speak, and attacked Jake Olson first, it's not a bad showing from Thor.

And before Thor Girl even intervened, Thor beat the crap out of Glads, laying him down and out on the ground. Let it never be said I'm trying to hide anything:

As you can plainly see, Glads' is already KTFO before Thor Girl decides to gain some retribution.

Both the first fight and Masterson's Gladiator's speed made both Thors look like fools. The second fight shows how Thor managed a sucker attack after both had saved the plane. He followed through after that sucker attack. This is no different then when Masterson managed a surprise attack on Kallark and connected blows after he was stunned. Otherwise Kallark would've given him a beat down. Look at the first fight when Thor barely managed to knocked back the debris and is blitz by Kallark. The Odinson couldn't cope at all in reaction time, got his hammer act out, and an upper all before he realized what happened. Gladiator removes that hammer long enough from Thor and Thor's going to get pummeled.

Originally posted by kgkg
Maybe I missed this but where does it say he was holding back? From the looks of it he was trying as hard as he could. Enchantment’s fine it still caused a K.O and it was done via speed blitz something Thor failed to react to. Now lawest9 asked for an incident and I provided one. Again the K.O occurred because Gladiator was cheapshoted after they saved the plane but I don't want to this turn into a Thor vs Gladiator thread.

I was merely telling to Quanchi that Gladiator has done well against Thor.

Thor states it when he puts him into the pavement. He was trying to assess the situation and even though still fighting back he was still holding back on Glads.

Airwalker has done better against Thor while he was holding back then Gladiator. The point is on here Thor doesn't revert to a lame human when he loses his hammer and the moment he quit holding back Glads was beaten and fairly easily.

Thor stomps Glads when he decides to not hold back.

Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
Both the first fight and Masterson's Gladiator's speed made both Thors look like fools. The second fight shows how Thor managed a sucker attack after both had saved the plane. He followed through after that sucker attack. This is no different then when Masterson managed a surprise attack on Kallark and connected blows after he was stunned. Otherwise Kallark would've given him a beat down. Look at the first fight when Thor barely managed to knocked back the debris and is blitz by Kallark. The Odinson couldn't cope at all in reaction time, got his hammer act out, and an upper all before he realized what happened. Gladiator removes that hammer long enough from Thor and Thor's going to get pummeled.
Two things.

1. Masterson was not confident at all in his abilities while Gladiator was overconfident when they squared off. Masterson was also a relative noob with the powers of Thor and still was resourceful enough to get the win. Now, I agree Masterson loses the majority against Gladiator but the real Thor is another matter entirely.

2.There were innocents close by and Thor was reacting with their best interests at batting away the debris. Glads barely hit him before he could react because he was too busy sending the debris away which tells me Glads can't just blitz him straight up or else why throw the debris in the first place.

Thor reverted to a human being and was holding back. The moment he quit Glads was defeated and rather quickly. Glads was sent home and his own words were something like,"He's too strong."

Thor owns Gladiator the moment he wants to.

Originally posted by quanchi112 Thor states it when he puts him into the pavement. He was trying to assess the situation and even though still fighting back he was still holding back on Glads.
Well that's very common saying in comics. I can find many instances similar to this were people say I'm not going to hold back. Looking at how the fight went it's pretty clear Thor was trying to stop Gladiator. Not like it matters because he was cheapshoted and just because he was on the ground doesn't mean Gladiator was K.O'ed and if he was K.O'ed you really think he needed to be attacked like that.

Originally posted by quanchi112 Airwalker has done better against Thor while he was holding back then Gladiator. The point is on here Thor doesn't revert to a lame human when he loses his hammer and the moment he quit holding back Glads was beaten and fairly easily.

Airwalker also K.Oed Thor with a simple attack. Holding back has nothing to do with his durability which caused the K.O in the first place.

Originally posted by quanchi112 Thor stomps Glads when he decides to not hold back.

Nope. Gladitor using his speed beats Thor 🙂

Originally posted by kgkg
Well that's very common saying in comics. I can find many instances similar to this were people say I'm not going to hold back. Looking at how the fight went it's pretty clear Thor was trying to stop Gladiator. Not like it matters because he was cheapshoted and just because he was on the ground doesn't mean Gladiator was K.O'ed and if he was K.O'ed you really think he needed to be attacked like that.

Airwalker also K.Oed Thor with a simple attack. Holding back has nothing to do with his durability which caused the K.O in the first place.

Nope. Gladitor using his speed beats Thor 🙂

When characters make statements we don't ignore them we accept their words otherwise it's just you picking and choosing what to accept and what to ignore.

Thor was battling Gladiator but when he quit holding back the power he uses is much more significant. Thor had him at his mercy beneath his feet. Thor made his intentions clear and the whole fight was Glads really trying to kill Thor anyways. That's how it all started.

Thor also killed Airwalker when he quit holding back. That's one of the worst arguments you could ever make. Thor killed him with one hammer strike after he found out he was a machine. That goes to show you how much Thor holds back.

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Glads used a distraction and barely hit him before he could react. With no innocents around and Thor not holding back this ends quickly. Glads accepted Thor's superiority why can't you?

Originally posted by kgkg
Well that's very common saying in comics. I can find many instances similar to this were people say I'm not going to hold back. Looking at how the fight went it's pretty clear Thor was trying to stop Gladiator. Not like it matters because he was cheapshoted and just because he was on the ground doesn't mean Gladiator was K.O'ed and if he was K.O'ed you really think he needed to be attacked like that.

Airwalker also K.Oed Thor with a simple attack. Holding back has nothing to do with his durability which caused the K.O in the first place.

Nope. Gladitor using his speed beats Thor 🙂

Superman using his super speed isn't beating Thor and Gladz wouldn't either 😬

Originally posted by quanchi112 When characters make statements we don't ignore them we accept their words otherwise it's just you picking and choosing what to accept and what to ignore.
That's exactly what you do pick what you like.

Thor has also said that a simple warning shot from Surfer can kill him. So since Thor said that we will take it as fact from now on . I Thor also said Wolverine is to fast for Thor to even hit need I go on about character making statements?

Originally posted by quanchi112 Thor was battling Gladiator but when he quit holding back the power he uses is much more significant. Thor had him at his mercy beneath his feet. Thor made his intentions clear and the whole fight was Glads really trying to kill Thor anyways. That's how it all started.
Nope Wrong. Gladiator fought Thor Girl beat her fought Thor beat him than got cheapshoted and was attacked again by Thor girl.

Originally posted by quanchi112 Thor also killed Airwalker when he quit holding back. That's one of the worst arguments you could ever make. Thor killed him with one hammer strike after he found out he was a machine. That goes to show you how much Thor holds back.
Airwalker durability is shit. Why are you bringing airwalker he was able to put Thor down temp also which was my point. Airwalker going down has nothing to do with his durability I'm not claiming Airwalker > Thor.

Originally posted by quanchi112 Glads used a distraction and barely hit him before he could react. With no innocents around and Thor not holding back this ends quickly. Glads accepted Thor's superiority why can't you?

Yes because Thor holding back makes him slower right? 😂

Originally posted by iceman24567
Superman using his super speed isn't beating Thor and Gladz wouldn't either 😬
That is why he would lose to Superman and Gladiator. Can Thor beat them? Sure but I don't see him talking majority epically from Superman.

I simply don't see what's so hard to understand about that Glad's/Thor fight. He first and foremost, attacked an unaware JAKE OLSEN, not Thor. It's pretty easy to keep pressing an advantage against a foe that is both unaware at first, essentially defenseless, and holding back. Wow, big showing for Glad's right?

He also banked on that hammer weakness to exploit, after having spied on Thor scuffling with Thor Girl. Not to mention he grabs Mandy, using her to his advantage. He even goes as far to state "Some like to fight. To wage personal war before a conflict is decided. Not me. I prefer to end matters before they escalate."

Anyone can see that the Glads who attacked Thor was a cheap SOB who knew better to engage Thor on his terms, instead using surprise to his advantage.

And what happened once that surprise wore off?

Thor dropped his ass.