Originally posted by Q99
I wouldn't say that much- she had the powers of far more supers, but they all seemed to draw on her own endurance (i.e. using Magneto's powers for a giant EMP almost KOed her) and were limited by her skill with them. Most of the time she was doing stuff like 3 moderately powerful characters or one really strong one.X-Treme Rogue is more powerful than Diana, but more like one >.
I do remember that but that was happening during the time she was shot by a blast that was throwing her powers out of order, she couldnt control it.
But there were other instance where she used all of that power without a problem and anytime she pleased. Thats why she was called the most powerful being on the face of the planet because of all that power she possessed. People had to resort to plot device to beat her like cancelling out her powers or tp attacks which mentally knocked her powers out of order.
Originally posted by carver9
Why would X-treme rogue need to move the earth but we do know one thing, she had hulks strength and abilities which is>>Diana strength.
She has aborbed characters like hulk, thor, phoenix, Jugs etc. She is way beyond traditional top tier level.
Originally posted by khazra
Binary is close but Jugs is way beyond her. This is the guy who outmuscles hulk more consistantly than anyone else in the MU.She Hulk has been shown to be stronger than hercules on panel.
That depends what you consider fair. To say rogue isnt tagging diana once when diana is dealing with she hulk too is basically ridiculous.
Diana's defensive speed is infamous; she can more than readily deal with two much slower opponents (as both Rogue and She-Hulk are). She could evade both, bounce Jen for a brief moment, bind Rogue, and then finish Jen.
And even taking a more remote example of Jen over Hercules doesn't show much for this fight, as WW is classically as strong, or stronger, than Hercules in a reference context; coupled with her superior speed and combat skills, Jen doesn't match up.
And Classic Juggs isn't stronger than Diana. Momentum isn't a given, and she matches any of his classic feats. Now, *other* versions of Juggs is a *completely* different comparison.
If this were, say, Binary/Supergirl vs. Wonder Woman, then WW goes down (as, although she is stronger than Supergirl, SG can at least match speed/durability, and Binary's other powers, while WW could defend against via bracers, wouldn't be a given with SG running interference). Just an example.
Originally posted by tideoftime
Diana's defensive speed is infamous; she can more than readily deal with two much slower opponents (as both Rogue and She-Hulk are). She could evade both, bounce Jen for a brief moment, bind Rogue, and then finish Jen.And even taking a more remote example of Jen over Hercules doesn't show much for this fight, as WW is classically as strong, or stronger, than Hercules in a reference context; coupled with her superior speed and combat skills, Jen doesn't match up.
And Classic Juggs isn't stronger than Diana. Momentum isn't a given, and she matches any of his classic feats. Now, *other* versions of Juggs is a *completely* different comparison.
If this were, say, Binary/Supergirl vs. Wonder Woman, then WW goes down (as, although she is stronger than Supergirl, SG can at least match speed/durability, and Binary's other powers, while WW could defend against via bracers, wouldn't be a given with SG running interference). Just an example.
Strength wise, Jugs>Wonderwoman.
Originally posted by tideoftime
Diana's defensive speed is infamous; she can more than readily deal with two much slower opponents (as both Rogue and She-Hulk are). She could evade both, bounce Jen for a brief moment, bind Rogue, and then finish Jen.And even taking a more remote example of Jen over Hercules doesn't show much for this fight, as WW is classically as strong, or stronger, than Hercules in a reference context; coupled with her superior speed and combat skills, Jen doesn't match up.
And Classic Juggs isn't stronger than Diana. Momentum isn't a given, and she matches any of his classic feats. Now, *other* versions of Juggs is a *completely* different comparison.
If this were, say, Binary/Supergirl vs. Wonder Woman, then WW goes down (as, although she is stronger than Supergirl, SG can at least match speed/durability, and Binary's other powers, while WW could defend against via bracers, wouldn't be a given with SG running interference). Just an example.
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High end Binary herself would put Diana down.
She's got the whole cosmic warp speedster and ultramegasuper energy output thing on her side.
Originally posted by Konton
=/High end Binary herself would put Diana down.
She's got the whole cosmic warp speedster and ultramegasuper energy output thing on her side.
Cosmic warpspeeding does not equate to superspeed finesse.
Diana is capable of resisting/repelling ultramegasuper energy output (such as the assembled power of multiple gods and more) via her Aegis effect. Binary has a greater array of *blatant* power via energy attacks, but that isn't as much the edge on WW as you think it is. However (as I stated), if someone of similar power level to Diana (as Supergirl is) were running interference, then WW's ability to block/resist Binary's powers would be greatly curtailed. Against either SG or Binary, singularly, Diana would handle herself much better than you (and much of this forum) seem to perceive. No definite win on either, mind you, but a much better standing than you are giving credit for.
Originally posted by tideoftime
Cosmic warpspeeding does not equate to superspeed finesse.Diana is capable of resisting/repelling ultramegasuper energy output (such as the assembled power of multiple gods and more) via her Aegis effect. Binary has a greater array of *blatant* power via energy attacks, but that isn't as much the edge on WW as you think it is. However (as I stated), if someone of similar power level to Diana (as Supergirl is) were running interference, then WW's ability to block/resist Binary's powers would be greatly curtailed. Against either SG or Binary, singulary, Diana would handle herself much better than you (and much of this forum) seem to perceive. No definite win on either, mind you, but a much better standing than you are giving credit for.
I agree with this (even though I give her a 5/5 split against binary).
Originally posted by carver9
I do remember that but that was happening during the time she was shot by a blast that was throwing her powers out of order, she couldnt control it.But there were other instance where she used all of that power without a problem and anytime she pleased. Thats why she was called the most powerful being on the face of the planet because of all that power she possessed. People had to resort to plot device to beat her like cancelling out her powers or tp attacks which mentally knocked her powers out of order.
No, she collapsed from overdoing Magneto's power before the energy beam thing messed with her powers, she was still at full functionality at the time.
She can do 3~ powers in addition to her base at a time, and rotate through them relatively fast, but she can become exhausted, and most of the time when doing multiple at once they're 'weaker' ones like She-Hulk, Iceman, and Cyclops, and when she's doing Magneto or similar she's concentrating on that one.
Now, she still might have been the most powerful being on the planet at the time, but just by a lil, and she didn't have skill with all her powers.