Martian Manhunter vs Wonder Woman

Originally posted by Lord Feron
I thought it was always said MM is Superman's peer in strength.

He actually said this himself recently in Blackest Night. "Why do people forget I am as strong as superman" as he tosses like a city block somewhere. Seems to have zero problem flyng around with that much weight.

I do agree WW is very skilled. But MM can shapshift into a being that would give him a greater advantage (like more arms or feet). I seen what a bloodlusted Diana can do, and how Superman can dismiss her easily. I believe MM can do the same but not as easily.

I think peers and equals are different, yes mm and supes are peers, but i believe supes is stronger. With diana i think her and MM are peers, but she is a little weaker IMO. Speed equals, reflexs diana. And skill is diana. Diana should edge him out IMO due to superior fighting ability. That is of-course if The TP is ineffective like i stated before.

Originally posted by r0nm0n88
I think peers and equals are different, yes mm and supes are peers, but i believe supes is stronger. With diana i think her and MM are peers, but she is a little weaker IMO. Speed equals, reflexs diana. And skill is diana. Diana should edge him out IMO due to superior fighting ability. That is of-course if The TP is ineffective like i stated before.

I'm pretty sure they've said that Diana's the second strongest in the league and has somewhat better strength feats. Still, I'd consider them all peers- Supes>CM and WW>MM, but each '>' is just a tiny hair.

Oh yea, also importantly is MM can shapeshift to give himself more muscle, more arms, etc.. So base WW is > MM, but if J'onn pours his power into it, I think MM>Superman temporarily.

Originally posted by Lord Feron
I thought it was always said MM is Superman's peer in strength.

He actually said this himself recently in Blackest Night. "Why do people forget I am as strong as superman" as he tosses like a city block somewhere. Seems to have zero problem flyng around with that much weight.

I do agree WW is very skilled. But MM can shapshift into a being that would give him a greater advantage (like more arms or feet). I seen what a bloodlusted Diana can do, and how Superman can dismiss her easily. I believe MM can do the same but not as easily.

They are all peers in strength. Superman, MM, CM, WW. But as someone else said, a peer does not necessarily mean they are equal. I think Superman is stronger than all of the above, but not so much so that he puts himself in a whole new level.

We also have to be careful about just accepting character's assertions as truth. Remember when Diana said she was faster than Clark. Look how well that went over.

And no, I really don't think we've seen what a truly blood lusted Diana can do. She would be destroying souls and cutting off heads left and right. She has a lot of exotic powers she rarely uses.

Shapeshifting and Intangibility are his two greatest assets here. TP is useless and he isn't faster than her. Strength is a wash, but MM could amp himself to a degree. He may or may not be as durable. Her weapons give her an edge, but there are a number of different ways either person can prevail in this match up.

I think Diana has the tools nessacary to win this, but I don't think she curbstomps J'onn though. I'd give her 6-7/10 at most.

lots of superman comparisons for some reason. mm would do better against kal, imo. ww just happens to be a bad match for him. he'd still take some, but i'd give her the slight majority.

Originally posted by leonidas
lots of superman comparisons for some reason

Mhm. And not a single refute to my arguments.

Originally posted by TheKahn
mhmm

I don't know why MM doesn't get the respect he deserves in comparison to his JLA compatriots (general popularity aside). Personally, I think he should easily be able to defeat WW and Superman given his diverse, high tier power-set.

that's exactly it, though: his powerset is amazing, but he's not the most competent at utilising it's full potential.

Originally posted by -Pr-
that's exactly it, though: his powerset is amazing, but he's not the most competent at utilising it's full potential.

As for the thread, at normal levels, MM should win

Originally posted by xJLxKing
He did good in Blackest Night(If you're talking about MM)

As for the thread, at normal levels, MM should win

aye. he was very good in blackest night. just wish he was like that all the time...

Yup, unfortunately, he never is

Martian Manhunter without a doubt. 7-8/10 in a no holds barred match.

Originally posted by Konton
Diana for the majority.

She's got better feats in all physical areas. His telepathy is useless due to the Eye of Pallas upgrade. Her lasso has mixed results in handling Martians, mostly resulting in immobilization. Without PIS the lasso should not be escapable. At all.

Her defenses are greater than his. She's more skilled than he is. etc. etc.

She has all the means to put him down and he has... ways to evade her for a time and isn't really efficient enough to take this head to head.

What's he going to do to put Diana down? Go intangible and spam martian vision all day? ohai aegis bands
ohai lasso

WW likes to punch things.
MM is a shapechanger
At some point Wondy will make contact Paving the way for Manhunter to grab her, form an exosuit and raep her brain ftw.

🙂

lol @ people claiming wonder woman gets respect.

Originally posted by BattleMage
Martian Manhunter without a doubt. 7-8/10 in a no holds barred match.

Obviously there is a doubt if you have him losing 3 matches. lol