Originally posted by Mr Master
I actually haven't.But from the comments I've read, it's riddles with pis I understand,
or it had to be a stipulation that defeated Owen.Unless Sentry has been boosted to Godlike levels,
then, who can argue.This of course has to be confirmed across arcs/handbooks and such.
Sentry didn't fight the more powerful Molecule Man persona. That's sort of the issue though. Sentry fans have gone nuts over this, and when i try to explain it was the weaker Owen Reece they fought (not to mention he was completely insane) they don't want to hear it.
It was either that, or Bendis gave MM a huge downgrade. Osborne regarded Owen as nothing more than a planetary level power in that story.
Also, wasn't it mentioned some where that Owen expended a good deal of his power re-merging Beyonder with Kosmos, or am I crazy?
Originally posted by Knowsbleed33Sentry didn't fight the more powerful Molecule Man persona. That's sort of the issue though. Sentry fans have gone nuts over this, and when i try to explain it was the weaker Owen Reece they fought (not to mention he was completely insane) they don't want to hear it.
His unlimited side (evil MM) is just bananas.
Originally posted by Knowsbleed33It was either that, or Bendis gave MM a huge downgrade.
Osborne regarded Owen as nothing more than a planetary level power in that story.
And yet, timid Owen said "ripping Galaxies apart, that's easy stuff"
Originally posted by Knowsbleed33Also, wasn't it mentioned some where that Owen expended a good deal of his power re-merging Beyonder with Kosmos, or am I crazy?
There is another possible explanation. Unfortunately, there isn't enough info about this new Sentry to make any sense out of it right now.
The first time they meet Owen is puzzled by Sentry, stating that he's never "tasted" Sentry's molecules before.
Later, in the next issue, Sentry seems to come bursting right out of Owens chest. After this happens is when Sentry "discovers his power" and is able to some how defeat Owen.
Then, after he defeats Owen, he tries to explain everything to Osborne. He says "I learned something about myself today. I can control the molecules of my world. That's how I do what I do."
Like I said, there's not enough info about this new power he discovered to try and make sense of that, but I have a feeling that had something to do with it.
Originally posted by Mr Master
Post Beyonder is more powerful than he's getting credit for here.Post Beyonder was f'n up all reality at one time with his tampering on a Multiversal scale,
his death can cause havoc across the Multiverse
and apparently, still to this day,
post Beyonder is used as a punch line (in bios) in terms of what can bring down Eternity.In fact, post Beyonder is credited with erasing Death (retconned to 616)
although this act still did spread across the Multiverse because it was 616's Death.And Eternity needed help to try and attack the Beyonder
in the Beyonder's bane scenario. (all canon to post Beyonder)
And post Beyonder is also credited with nearly destroying Eternity during Secret Wars.
This fact was retconned in 1989, but then apparently retconned again in 2006.Also ...
Thanos (in his limited mini which took place after he acquired the IG & HOTI)
stated that the Beyonder trapped withIN the Maker was "unlimited power"... oh, post Beyonder also granted Rachel the full power of the Phoenix Force.
One last note:
When unlimited Owen (evil Molecule Man) battled post Beyonder,
he claimed that in all the infinities only he surpassed Beyonder in power.Just a few updates for those dome pieces friends.
Odin has also shaken the multi-verse too, and he couldn't even down pre-resurrection Thanos.
And he never gave rachel the FP of the Phoenix. He only manipulated her into absorb everyone in her universe and such.
Originally posted by galactusischereOdin has also shaken the multi-verse too,
and he couldn't even down pre-resurrection Thanos.
On the other hand,
Owen & Beyonder's battle warped reality within realities across the Omniverse.
That aside,
please never again compare Odin to the likes of Cube beings. 馃檪
Originally posted by galactusischereAnd he never gave rachel the FP of the Phoenix.
He only manipulated her into absorb everyone in her universe and such.
Now again,
Post-Retcon Beyonder granted Rachel Summers the full power of the PF.
It was actually "pre-retcon" Beyonder who did it,
but the feat was made canon to the retconned version of Beyonder as well.
That's a fact some don't know about,
that is,
that many of the feats performed by classic Beyonder were passed on to Post-retcon B.
Oh, and btw, you're right,
Rachel was able to connect to every living being in 616 because of Post-Retcon Beyonder.
Originally posted by Mr MasterMy friend, I wouldn't make the statement if I didn't have proof.
Now again,
Post-Retcon Beyonder granted Rachel Summers the full power of the PF.It was actually "pre-retcon" Beyonder who did it,
but the feat was made canon to the retconned version of Beyonder as well.That's a fact some don't know about,
that is,
that many of the feats performed by classic Beyonder were passed on to Post-retcon B.Oh, and btw, you're right,
Rachel was able to connect to every living being in 616 because of Post-Retcon Beyonder.
Umm.. just saying but didn't rachel absrob most of the X-men? then she went on to eat a few other planets but realized that she was being manipulated by Beyonder to destroy the universe she was in and so on. Unless im mistaken, it was never stated that she had the full power of the Phoenix. Not that Beyonder couldn't give rachel the FP of the Phoenix.
Debating these is a wonder
LT leaves that to the experts
I'm just a 42 old comic nerd
U ask me today, Sentry could be Beyonder. Maybe Beyonder is something else....Who knows besides those idiots writing him
Kubik is returning also. So I will post my 2 cents. Damm my opinion is nothing 馃槀
G is powerful, lets see wat he does his next appearance
Here's a hint fellow friends. Kala wants to destroy everything. Who stops him
Ponder
