Blobbernaught vs WWH
Alright Blob somehow turns in the Juggernaut giving him Unlimited Stamina, Durability, a Force field, unstoppable foward movement and plus increase Blob superhuman strength 50 fold all of this added to his own powers. One top of this new powers he gets a suit similar to Juggernaut. No bfr.
Blob is a moron and never stood a chance against Hulk. Hulk already figured out he can just lift whatever the Hell Blob is standing on and throw him. Being immoveable is actually a very useless power alone. Hulk's hurt Blob more than once. Being immoveable doesn't change Blob's durability either. That's just his mutant fatness, which Hulk overpowered. Besides that, Blob has little fighting skill, and he's a dumbass.
Juggernaut only ever challenges Hulk's strength with his unstoppable enchantment, is obviously not as strong as WWHulk or that would've been noted, and is only comparably skilled in brawling. That's why they stalemate all the time.
All this just makes a fat Juggernaut. If intelligence and skills are meshed as well as powers, Juggernaut loses because Blob bottlenecks the whole thing. If just powers are meshed but the higher intelligence and skills are used, Juggernaut wins because he obviously has talent in the use of powers affecting the laws of physics. He's a very successful avatar and we love him for it. Being immoveable is right up his alley. The sidestep-continue-Juggernaut's-momentum thing WWHulk did wouldn't have worked if Cain just went immoveable, and he's fast enough to act before Hulk could do the ground lift bit instead of what Blob does, which is standing there going "DUUUHHH!!!!". In addition, the elasticity of Blob's skin coupled with Juggernaut's pure solid durability would make him impossible to inflict pain on, and not just almost impossible to damage as he is as standard. Few would be able to contend with Cain if he acquired Blob's powers without the poorer skills and lower intelligence.
Standard Juggernaut however, while not as strong as Savage Hulk or WWHulk, nor has there ever been any indication of such, his durability is off the chizzle and makes him extremely hard for Hulk to hurt. On the other hand, Savage Hulk and WWHulk's HF is off the chizz-ain, and it keeps him at 100% no matter what hits him. Hulk and Juggernaut should never have a decisive fight. It should always be a stalemate or victory by unique circumstances with these two. Anything else would be f*cking stupid and letting down decades of history of stalemates. War Hulk beat Juggernaut, and Juggernaut beat down an unknowing Professor Hulk. That's one to one and both were questionable. It'll always be a stalemate. Saying anything else is f*cking stupid.
And Skaar sucks.
Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
Juggernaut has always been able to match the Hulk in strength.You fail again.
Oh, hi, numbnuts. I failed "again"? Just a few threads ago I had everyone questioning that it was strength versus strength and you were practically the only one arguing - withouth proof mind you - that the WWHulk/Juggernaut lock-up was strength versus strength. You know how I got everyone thinking? Logic and evidence. I'll explain it slowly.
Juggernaut swears to trash Hulk, meaning highly motivated and extremely pissed off.
Attacks Hulk, not doing any better than he ever does.
They lock-up, slamming into eachother, which creates momentum. Because, you see, any dumbass can tell you that any movement at all has momentum. It's physics, kids! What goes up, must come down. An object in motion, stays in motion, unless acted upon by an opposing force. Of course, the exception to this rule is if you're enchanted by a god-like mystical entity to be his avatar of destruction.
Juggernaut, looking determined, "We have done this dance before, Hulk. And I won!" Huh? I wonder what he was talking about? Has he really proven his strength superior before? Is he stronger than Hulk? Is he stronger than Thor, Hercules, and Silver Surfer? People whose strength have failed or only stalemated against Hulk over countless battles in the past? Or could he be talking about how many times Juggernaut has beaten Hulk? Let's see... Once... And Hulk has beaten him... Once... Huh. Imagine that. Tie. So it's not that. Let's go back to the tie-up. The tie-up, that must be the "dance" the Juggernaut was talking about.
They lock-up, creating minute forward momentum. Oh! But Hulk is sliding backwards and Juggernaut is moving forwards. Hey! That's momentum again! Hulk, bored, "I haven't got all day. Nothing stops the Juggernaut? Fine. Keep going." ... Wait. Rewind that! "Nothing stops the Juggernaut? Fine. Keep going." Again! "Keep going." Pause it where he says keep. "Ke-" Paused? Okay. The word keep, as our friend Dictionary.com says, means : to continue in an action, course, position, state, etc.: to keep in sight; to keep going.
What action did Hulk say Juggernaut was doing? Going. Moving, that is. Movement, now with momentum!
Wait a minute! It all makes sense! What "dance" could Juggernaut possibly have the right to claim victory of? His unstoppable momentum is the only thing to have ever overpowered Hulk's strength. Let's see. Hulk overpowered Onslaught's armor. Hulk's overpowered something capable of crushing adamantium. Hulk's overpowered every single indestructable shield he's ever come across. It seems Hulk's strength has never failed him, allowing him to stalemate and defeat gods, cosmic heralds, planets, and gigantic monsters. But Juggernaut wins every tie-up, not every fight, they've ever had. How? Well, in the past it was always well noted to be momentum versus strength. There's no logical reason why all of a sudden Juggernaut decides not to use his infamous power that he is so well known for. Momentum, kids!
I hope you were able to maintain your concentration and attention throughout this class. There will be a test. I'll give you the answers now, just to make it easy.
Durability - Juggernaut
Strength - Hulk
Speed - Tie
Fighting ability - Tie
Hm? Strange, it's almost as if they always stalemate.
Originally posted by Master CourtYes you did Sucker...Hulk will never outmuscle Juggernaut because Juggernaut is as strong as He wishes for, he prooved on their last match, he was pushing hulk back from a standstill, can you imagine if he was using his momentum? poor hulk.... 😱
Oh, hi, numbnuts. I failed "again"?Hm? Strange, it's almost as if they always stalemate.
Originally posted by Master CourtActually Juggernaut has already claimed to be at least the equal of Thor in strength when fighting Thor.
Oh, hi, numbnuts. I failed "again"? Just a few threads ago I had everyone questioning that it was strength versus strength and you were practically the only one arguing - withouth proof mind you - that the WWHulk/Juggernaut lock-up was strength versus strength. You know how I got everyone thinking? Logic and evidence. I'll explain it slowly.Juggernaut swears to trash Hulk, meaning highly motivated and extremely pissed off.
Attacks Hulk, not doing any better than he ever does.
They lock-up, slamming into eachother, which creates momentum. Because, you see, any dumbass can tell you that any movement at all has momentum. It's physics, kids! What goes up, must come down. An object in motion, stays in motion, unless acted upon by an opposing force. Of course, the exception to this rule is if you're enchanted by a god-like mystical entity to be his avatar of destruction.
Juggernaut, looking determined, "We have done this dance before, Hulk. And I won!" Huh? I wonder what he was talking about? Has he really proven his strength superior before? Is he stronger than Hulk? Is he stronger than Thor, Hercules, and Silver Surfer? People whose strength have failed or only stalemated against Hulk over countless battles in the past? Or could he be talking about how many times Juggernaut has beaten Hulk? Let's see... Once... And Hulk has beaten him... Once... Huh. Imagine that. Tie. So it's not that. Let's go back to the tie-up. The tie-up, that must be the "dance" the Juggernaut was talking about.
They lock-up, creating minute forward momentum. Oh! But Hulk is sliding backwards and Juggernaut is moving forwards. Hey! That's momentum again! Hulk, bored, "I haven't got all day. Nothing stops the Juggernaut? Fine. Keep going." ... Wait. Rewind that! "Nothing stops the Juggernaut? Fine. Keep going." Again! "Keep going." Pause it where he says keep. "Ke-" Paused? Okay. The word keep, as our friend Dictionary.com says, means : to continue in an action, course, position, state, etc.: to keep in sight; to keep going.
What action did Hulk say Juggernaut was doing? Going. Moving, that is. Movement, now with momentum!
Wait a minute! It all makes sense! What "dance" could Juggernaut possibly have the right to claim victory of? His unstoppable momentum is the only thing to have ever overpowered Hulk's strength. Let's see. Hulk overpowered Onslaught's armor. Hulk's overpowered something capable of crushing adamantium. Hulk's overpowered every single indestructable shield he's ever come across. It seems Hulk's strength has never failed him, allowing him to stalemate and defeat gods, cosmic heralds, planets, and gigantic monsters. But Juggernaut wins every tie-up, not every fight, they've ever had. How? Well, in the past it was always well noted to be momentum versus strength. There's no logical reason why all of a sudden Juggernaut decides not to use his infamous power that he is so well known for. Momentum, kids!
I hope you were able to maintain your concentration and attention throughout this class. There will be a test. I'll give you the answers now, just to make it easy.
Durability - Juggernaut
Strength - Hulk
Speed - Tie
Fighting ability - TieHm? Strange, it's almost as if they always stalemate.
So if we're going by that then Juggernaut is already as strong as somebody who always stalemates Hulk.
Hulk has never beaten Jugg's in a straight up fight either so you are wrong there it isn't a tie. The only clear victory belongs to Juggs although it was against Prof. Hulk.