Bor vs Superman

Started by carver930 pages
Originally posted by Johnny Sorrow
Interesting. Both sides make such compelling cases...

Let me help you out then. Despero one shotted Superman, Titus one shotted Superman and Bor is more powerful than them. This is the same guy that Thor enchanted hammer broke on. This is the same guy that hit THOR and Thor himself admitted that without the amp, if he was still in his classic form, he would have died. Now answer this, how much do you think Superman durability is over Thor? Now answer this, how much do you think Supermans durability is over Thor with the Odin power because he got his rib broken by one hit from Bor.

Then you answer this, is Superman vulnerable to magic? If the answer is yes then Bor is a walking embodiment of magic, including his punches. So again, Bor would literally one shot kill Superman.

superman cant hurt bor even if he let him
bor>enchanted uru>admantium
bor lets supes hit him and break his fist

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
superman cant hurt bor even if he let him
bor>enchanted uru>admantium
bor lets supes hit him and break his fist
Enchanted uru is not > adimantium

Wasn't Thor about Odin level when he fought Bor?

Doesn't that make Bor about skyfather level, too?

Even if Supes has a major speed advantage, what can he do to Bor? Surfer and Thanos combined couldn't even scratch Odin, and Thanos's physical attacks couldn't harm him either... They didn't even appear to register.

Originally posted by cdtm
Wasn't Thor about Odin level when he fought Bor?

Doesn't that make Bor about skyfather level, too?

Even if Supes has a major speed advantage, what can he do to Bor? Surfer and Thanos combined couldn't even scratch Odin, and Thanos's physical attacks couldn't harm him either... They didn't even appear to register.

Not even close in my opinion.

I'd say Bor is either at the top of Trans or maybe low Skyfather level.

There's a chance Superman would cause more damage to himself attacking Bor than he would to Bor.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Not even close in my opinion.

I'd say Bor is either at the top of Trans or maybe low Skyfather level.

There's a chance Superman would cause more damage to himself attacking Bor than he would to Bor.

This is the best statement that has been said about this fight. This is a none fight and anyone saying anything otherwise is delusional. You can give Superman another high herald partner and both of them would get one shotted.

Bor is underestimated and it was so plain and simple on how powerful the guy was that Ray Charles could see it.

Bor 10 out of 10 in one panel.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Not even close in my opinion.

I'd say Bor is either at the top of Trans or maybe low Skyfather level.

There's a chance Superman would cause more damage to himself attacking Bor than he would to Bor.

I can't see, say, The Runner tanking Asgardian Destroyers disintegration beam the way Thor did, and Bor did mess Thor up, so I'd guess at least low skyfather level.

More then Supes should be able to handle, imo.

Originally posted by the Darkone
Hell NO! Bor will thrash Superman, this is thesame Superman that wrecked by Atlas if it wasn't for Krypto Superman will be a dead man .
even if you don't believe superman's punch will hurt bor, which it probably will, it still packs enough force to send however much bor weighs into the outer atmosphere.

Originally posted by cdtm
I can't see, say, The Runner tanking Asgardian Destroyers disintegration beam the way Thor did, and Bor did mess Thor up, so I'd guess at least low skyfather level.

More then Supes should be able to handle, imo.

That feats is overrated in my opinion. Looking back, I don't think it's beyond Classic Thor capabilities. Thor's comment when he performed that feat stick out in particular. Meh. I'd be fine with Trans level.

True.

I still say bringing back the Odin Force at all was a mistake. JMS should have just ignored it like he did in his first arc but the fans just wouldn't shut up. Had to have an explanation. Shit, there are still people b*tching about the Runes. F*cking Thorbags. We're a horrible fanbase to be honest.

The Iron Man scene suggests to me that Thor wasn't intended to have the Odin Force in the early stages but I've been wrong before.

It was pointless to bring it back. It's obvious that Thor would have lost his portion sooner or later and that most writers wouldn't even give a shit about it.

Originally posted by thanos-prime
Enchanted uru is not > adimantium
enchanted uru has dented adamantium and crack celestial armor
enchanted uru>>adamantium

Any being who can punch so hard that it physically breaks (not magically) through dimensions can easily hurt Bor. And Carver, lowballing is not a good way to debate without appearing bias.

Originally posted by h1a8
Any being who can punch so hard that it physically breaks (not magically) through dimensions can easily hurt Bor. And Carver, lowballing is not a good way to debate without appearing bias.

ZOMG!

http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/ShattersReality1.jpg
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/ShattersReality2.jpg

http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/ShatterCosmos1.jpg
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/ShatterCosmos2.jpg

I also wanted to add that I'm shocked anyone is still trying to pass off that scene as a raw strength feat.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
ZOMG!

http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/ShattersReality1.jpg
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/ShattersReality2.jpg

Seems like poetry to me. No offense but it doesn't seem like Thor did you think he did here.

http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/ShatterCosmos1.jpg
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/ShatterCosmos2.jpg

[/B][/QUOTE] Note: My post said "physically" not "magically". Why? Because I knew of this feat.
It was mystical energy that did that, not pure physical force. Plus it took BOTH of them colliding to do this (like two cars colliding that provides 4 times the kinetic energy). Two mystical energies colliding causing the event to happen.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
ZOMG!

http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/ShattersReality1.jpg
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/ShattersReality2.jpg

http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/ShatterCosmos1.jpg
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/ShatterCosmos2.jpg

"Not since the legendary big bang..." O_o

And across all planes of reality?

People bring up Odin destroying galaxies on all planes of reality as a side effect of his battle, yet this Thor feat is rarely used..

Why not? You'd think they'd be all over it, since it sounds cosmically uber...

so post infinite crisis supes punching ppl through time isnt impressive? or under his own strength lvl alone?

Originally posted by King Castle
so post infinite crisis supes punching ppl through time isnt impressive? or under his own strength lvl alone?

I call your bluff. 😮‍💨

Originally posted by h1a8
Seems like poetry to me. No offense but it doesn't seem like Thor did you think he did here.

Translation: Nuh uh! That doesn't count.

Originally posted by h1a8
Note: My post said "physically" not "magically". Why? Because I knew of this feat.

It was mystical energy that did that, not pure physical force. Plus it took BOTH of them colliding to do this (like two cars colliding that provides 4 times the kinetic energy). Two mystical energies colliding causing the event to happen.

It's mystical in nature. It was caused by an enchanted hammers and mystical characters. How does that actually change the underlining point? It was made clear that said attack had incredible power. Thor is stronger and more powerful than both of these characters by the way.

Lol at your reasoning. The Superman feat you referenced had Clark and his E-2 counterpart trading blows with each other by the way. That feat was more dubious than this one if you actually understood the story.

The Superman feat was the result of a cosmic effect caused by Alex Luthor's meddling with reality. As I recall it also affected other characters, but was stronger in the case of the Supermen, since they're so central to the universe, being nexuses and blah blah more metaphysical crap.

Originally posted by cdtm
"Not since the legendary big bang..." O_o

And across all planes of reality?

People bring up Odin destroying galaxies on all planes of reality as a side effect of his battle, yet this Thor feat is rarely used..

Why not? You'd think they'd be all over it, since it sounds cosmically uber...

Eh, I don't like using it much.

Bor turns Superman into a cursed cannibalistic whore with a spell.

Somehow... Superman still wins.

Am I doing it right, guys?