Bor vs Superman

Originally posted by thanos-prime
Granted his fight with thor may be common knowledge im not sure if it's common knowledge that A). it was OF thor and B). How powerful Bor is all that is known is that he was killed by thor.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
Since you can't really think correctly. Most people who get blood lusted lose control of other emotions.

Originally posted by Trackz
bloodlust merely means theyre going for the kill, not that they'll lose control, superman has wanted to kill his opponents, he still uses his speed and such (doomsday rex, darkseid, superman-2)

Bloodlust = Willing to kill no stupid back holding CIS or anything

Berserk = Going f@cking nuts and only for direct confrontation

Oh okay I got it

Originally posted by Parmaniac
Bloodlust = Willing to kill no stupid back holding CIS or anything

Berserk = Going f@cking nuts and only for direct confrontation

Originally posted by thanos-prime
We Don't use the term berserk but that is the definition we use for bloodlust at least it's pretty close.

seriously? I always got it that way and made my threads with these definitions

Originally posted by Parmaniac
seriously? I always got it that way and made my threads with these definitions

Originally posted by Kasper Gutman
Bor would kill Superman in either scenario. It seemed quite clear that without being a skyfather Thor would easily have been killed. Bor is above the herald level, even with his few appearances this seems clear. His one low showing was allowing his magical defences to drop and allowing Loki to turn him into snow. That says more about Loki's power in my opinion then being a low showing for Bor.

By the way, shouldn't Thor have recognized his grandfather even though he's been missing for thousands of years. Asgard had to filled with statues and paintings of Bor. Thor was either having a blonde moment or the writer missed that.

LOL

Superman wins both, not easy but still.

Bor in both. In a H2H fight, Bor's still going to win. Supes isn't putting him down and when Bor lands a hit, Supes is going to drop.

Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
Bor in both. In a H2H fight, Bor's still going to win. Supes isn't putting him down and when Bor lands a hit, Supes is going to drop.

Originally posted by Trackz
superman is faster and can phase through his hits, not only that, he's the more skilled of the two and can use pressure points.

In the first fight, Bor would out right kill Superman. Speed and phasing isn't going to stop Bor from shit stomping Superman.

In the second fight, Bor's gonna kill him since I assume this is just a slug out. But if Supes is allowed enhance his punches through speed, Bor should be able to match that by enhancing his durability and strength above what Superman's punches can do. Then it's up to Supes to avoid getting his head knocked in.

Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
In the first fight, Bor would out right kill Superman. Speed and phasing isn't going to stop Bor from shit stomping Superman.

In the second fight, Bor's gonna kill him since I assume this is just a slug out. But if Supes is allowed enhance his punches through speed, Bor should be able to match that by enhancing his durability and strength above what Superman's punches can do. Then it's up to Supes to avoid getting his head knocked in.

Originally posted by Trackz
ok what proof? Superman is the faster,more skilled, and he has stronger feats in terms of both durability and hitting power.

Aside from the fact that he would've killed regular Thor? Or that he broke Odin powered Thor's rib with that second hit? Thor and Superman are in the same league in terms of durability and strength. Heck, in JLA/Avengers (canonical to DC), Superman barely won that fight against regular Thor. Superman isn't going to win against Bor.

Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
Aside from the fact that he would've killed regular Thor? Or that he broke Odin powered Thor's rib with that second hit? Thor and Superman are in the same league in terms of durability and strength. Heck, in JLA/Avengers (canonical to DC), Superman barely won that fight against regular Thor. Superman isn't going to win against Bor.

Originally posted by Trackz
crossovers arent usable for one, superman has wrecked foes like darkseid and earth-2 superman, just because he almost beat thor (again almost) really isn't a feat that puts him in a league above superman.

Why wouldn't JLA/Avengers count? And when did Superman wreck E-2 Superman and non-Jobberseid?

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Why wouldn't JLA/Avengers count? And when did Superman wreck E-2 Superman and non-Jobberseid?

I'm pretty sure he beat Earth-2 Superman, fight should be in the respct thread, it's too long to sort through.

In superman/batman Superman blitzed darkseid to the moon and then used the amp to beat him.

Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
Aside from the fact that he would've killed regular Thor? Or that he broke Odin powered Thor's rib with that second hit? Thor and Superman are in the same league in terms of durability and strength. Heck, in JLA/Avengers (canonical to DC), Superman barely won that fight against regular Thor. Superman isn't going to win against Bor.

it's canon to both, but not usable on the forum.

Originally posted by Trackz
it's in the rules, check them.

I'm pretty sure he beat Earth-2 Superman, fight should be in the respct thread, it's too long to sort through.

In superman/batman Superman blitzed darkseid to the moon and then used the amp to beat him.

He didn't beat E-2 Superman in Infinite Crisis, if that's what you're thinking. I would declare it a stalemate if anything, but based on showings, E-2 Superman was portrayed as being superior to mainstream Superman. If you look at their actual fight, E-2 was shown to have little battle damage as opposed to Superman, and their fight was halted by Diana before it was concluded (though you could argue that E-2 was putting up much more effort due to the death of Lois). Further in the issue, when they confront Doomsday, DD manages to draw blood and knock down Supes, where his E-2 counterpart fared better in comparison. In any case, he didn't beat E-2 Superman.

And wasn't that an avatar of Darkseid?

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
He didn't beat E-2 Superman in Infinte Crisis, if that's what you're thinking. I would declare it a stalemate if anything, but based on showings, E-2 Superman was portrayed as being superior to mainstream Superman. If you look at their actual fight, E-2 was shown to have little battle damage as opposed to Superman, and their fight was halted by Diana before it was concluded (though you could argue that E-2 was putting up much more effort due to the death of Lois). Further in the issue, when they confront Doomsday, DD manages to draw blood and knock down Supes, where his E-2 counterpart fared better in comparison. In any case, he didn't beat E-2 Superman.

And wasn't that an avatar of Darkseid?

-my fault wit hthe earth-2 superman, but none he less, the about of damage and force of the blows was great than those of the thor/bor fight, no?
-also wasn't it kinda inferred superman-1 was the stronger of the two (he survived the fight against superboy prime)
-no, he put him on the sourcewall, darkseid had to be rescued and have his omega force restored.