Originally posted by TrackzSuperman's blow > a fight between Tenebrous/Aegis vs Surfer and Galactus
It may be because of the writing, that doesn't change the fact that collateral damage does directly have to do with the force behind the blow, and Black Racer beat superman, that's not the point though.
I didn't realize.
Originally posted by Trackz
look at what happened, the force of the punch knocked superman to another planet, the force of borrs punch knocked thor across a city block, superman has also shown to put more power behind his punches (when blackracer blocked his punch, the resultant force cracked a planet, while bor's blocked attack created a small crater)most people are going by inferred power, but feat wise superman has shown to take stronger punches than Bor has dealt, he's also thrown stronger punches (shockwaves shaking the planet and such), and he's the faster of the two by a good margin.
Ya no surprise Odinpower THor can take a hit better then Superman.
Thor has crumble mountains from his blows too no bg deal Bor and odinpower Thor are a whole level above Supes and classic Thor, Who are equals to their own right
Trying to argue that Superman can hang with Bor, odinpower Thor or odin is just stupid. Odin tanked hits that rocked the universe and Bor is suppsed to be above or at least equal too Odin.
Originally posted by TrackzSo by your logic World Breaker Hulk's foot is stronger then just about every comic book character including superman
It may be because of the writing, that doesn't change the fact that collateral damage does directly have to do with the force behind the blow, and Black Racer beat superman, that's not the point though.
Originally posted by DarkOdinit has nothing to do with taking the hit, the force sent superman of the planet, the hit thor took only sent him down a block, even going by the implied power of the hits, superman has taken suneaters exploding and such, and you can't use ABC logic to argue for Bor, (Odin did this and bor is supposed to be stronger than him), superan has taken hit equivalent to what thor took, not only that thor beat bor because he was faster (took him out before he could finish his strike), superman's fighting speed is way above thor's.
Ya no surprise Odinpower THor can take a hit better then Superman.Thor has crumble mountains from his blows too no bg deal Bor and odinpower Thor are a whole level above Supes and classic Thor, Who are equals to their own right
Trying to argue that Superman can hang with Bor, odinpower Thor or odin is just stupid. Odin tanked hits that rocked the universe and Bor is suppsed to be above or at least equal too Odin.
Originally posted by DarkOdinwe don't know how strong he was at that point, he may have been stronger than superman and many other characters seeing as a single stomp almost destroyed the east coast
So by your logic World Breaker Hulk's foot is stronger then just about every comic book character including superman
Originally posted by JakeTheBankand superman has dealt with opponents that powerful before, planet destroying strength is nothing new
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsBor10.jpgBor was unleashing enough power to threaten the whole planet toward the end of the fight.
Originally posted by DarkOdini got what you meant, funny. But that's not the point was focusing on. Regardless, I understand the opposing argument, there's more than one way to gauge power I suppose, although superman has the better feats at this point I agree to disagree.
You missed the point of my statement of hulk's foot being stronger not the Hulk himself. 🙄
Originally posted by TrackzName a few. For that matter, name one where he's dealt with a planet destroying strength whose source was magic.
and superman has dealt with opponents that powerful before, planet destroying strength is nothing new
A single staff swing by Bor nearly killed Odinforce Thor and this was a blow that Thor actually blocked with Mjolnir (for reference, Odinforce Thor blocked the Destroyer's beam of total disintegration just fine)! AND this was even before Bor revealed his godly energies! I don't think it's very reasonable that Superman's gonna successfully engage someone whose durability is off the charts, attack power is off the charts, and when he does get serious... starts spewing cascading magic all over the place that's going to blow up the planet...
Superman is sorely outclassed here. As for pure H2H brawl? Still don't see much. Superman's ability to brawl is nearly unparalleled, but there are levels of opponents even he can't outbrawl, e.g., Destroyer, Mangog, etc. I'm pretty comfortable throwing Bor into that group.
^ First and second scans of the fight from my Revamped Thor Respect Thread:
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
[b]XIII. THOR'S FIGHTS (cont'd)===
Bor
===Odinforce Thor vs Bor, from Thor #600:
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^ Hence, the statement, "-- if not for the Odinforce, I would be dead even now." Also, I believe Thor over you.
EDIT: No wait. I get what you mean. Classic Thor would have been killed. Odinforce Thor was ok. I was conflating where the second staff swing broke his ribs with the former's statements. In short, retracted.
Originally posted by DarkOdin
Ya no surprise Odinpower THor can take a hit better then Superman.Thor has crumble mountains from his blows too no bg deal Bor and odinpower Thor are a whole level above Supes and classic Thor, Who are equals to their own right
Trying to argue that Superman can hang with Bor, odinpower Thor or odin is just stupid. Odin tanked hits that rocked the universe and Bor is suppsed to be above or at least equal too Odin.
Exactly. Not knocking Superman but Bor is on a higher level this could be spite.
