Colossus, The Thing

Started by Silent Master5 pages
Originally posted by KingD19
I know, but you're making it seem like Gladiator was a wimp or something. He was still CL 100, and in the mid to high range in that Class. And you didn't answer my question, would Thing have done better?

There is nothing in his appearances up to that point that would indicate cl 100, let alone mid to high end cl 100.

Colossus? He's not class 100.

Colossus us Class 100, and he was talking about Gladiator. Gladiator since his inception has been CL 100.

I like how a few renegade fans try to spew their BS and go against Marvels official ratings on their characters.

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
colossus has gone toe toe with pretty much all versions of hulk.

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Originally posted by snoopdogg
I like how a few renegade fans try to spew their BS and go against Marvels official ratings on their characters.

You mean hand book which by the mods own say are not usable on the boards and are extremely inaccurate?

though with that said Colossus and Gladeator are class 100's

Originally posted by Silent Master
There is nothing in his appearances up to that point that would indicate cl 100, let alone mid to high end cl 100.

That was like his second appearance........and yes he was a class 100 which is made quite evident in his feat to fallow.

* both are strong, but the fact that Colossus can change back and forth from human and steel form, then i pick him... and uh, because Colossus is much better-looking than Thing, no offense to Ben... hehehe... 😛

Originally posted by Battlehammer
That was like his second appearance........and yes he was a class 100 which is made quite evident in his feat to fallow.

That's like using Action comcs#680 to prove that Superman from Action comics#1 was cl100

What feats did Gladiator have at the time of the Colossus fight that would back up a cl 100 ranking?

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
Colossus? He's not class 100.
hes Class 100+

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
hes Class 100+

Originally posted by Silent Master
That's like using Action comcs#680 to prove that Superman from Action comics#1 was cl100

What feats did Gladiator have at the time of the Colossus fight that would back up a cl 100 ranking?

It was his second apearence your logic his terrible.

so by your logic the first are so 20 apearance of any character is completely unusable, beucase they have yet to expresses the full level of there powers? did you understand how stupid that sounds? so becuase he had yet to show the full extent of his strength we assume he was not 100 class dispite the fact he was never shown any weaker? When his strength was shown it was one shooting planet size meteors......

My logic is to treat him as his feats suggest, later writers obviously powered him up.

Originally posted by Silent Master
My logic is to treat him as his feats suggest, later writers obviously powered him up.

No your picking and choosing. You go by all his feats you dont pick the time frame. Simply becuase he did not have the feats at the time becuase it was his (2nd apearence) you can not assume he was not class 100 becuase when his strength was shown it was clearly depicted as well over 100 tons. No one later powered him up he was always clearly over 100 tons. Hell in that fight also they were desroying moutain sizes buildings with they vibrations and shock waves of there blows........

No, if you're talking about a specific version of a character, you use feats from that time frame.

Originally posted by Silent Master
No, if you're talking about a specific version of a character, you use feats from that time frame.

During that time frame he effortlessly moved a massive asteroid and destroyed a planet within a few punches..........

also you can't pick and choose.

Edit.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
During that time frame he effortlessly moved a massive asteroid and destroyed a planet within a few punches..........

also you can't pick and choose.

Incorrect, Those feats were never shown in a comic prior to or during the Colossus fight.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Incorrect, Those feats were never shown in a comic prior to or during the Colossus fight.

You said time frame. You cant pick and chioce.

They dont have to be used before to make them usable. During that era gladeator show vastly greater then 100 ton strength. To assume he did not have it is simply ignorance. There nothign to suggest he was not 100 tonner during that issue. It clear he is 100 becuase he feats after wards prove it and before that time he never showed anything below 100 ton strength.

Not to mention he eaisly got out of rubble that was size of moutains and buildings.........which in it self is over 100 tons........

Originally posted by Battlehammer
You said time frame. You cant pick and chioce.

They dont have to be used before to make them usable. During that era gladeator show vastly greater then 100 ton strength. To assume he did not have it is simply ignorance. There nothign to suggest he was not 100 tonner during that issue. It clear he is 100 becuase he feats after wards prove it.

And the time-frame for the fight would be the actual fight.

So by all means, list the cl 100 feats he had at the time of the Colossus fight.