Savage Hulk and Juggernaut Vs Apocalypse

Chalked it up to PIS.

The Nimrod showing?

Agreed.

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
The Nimrod showing?

Agreed.

Juggernaut working as a skeleton.

Nimrod showing was pretty weak too though.

Juggernaut working as a skeleton is PIS?

Explain.

's pretty simple, I don't believe he can work as a skeleton.

If he could, telepathy shouldn't work on him. Which it has many more times than he's gone as a skeleton.

You're assuming he didn't have his brain at the time.

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
You're assuming he didn't have his brain at the time.

Uhh what? The sonic attack Nimrod used didn't affect his brain in the slightest, so I don't see the overall relevancy of your argument that the Juggernaut #1 showing was PIS.

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
Uhh what? The sonic attack Nimrod used didn't affect his brain in the slightest, so I don't see the overall relevancy of your argument that the Juggernaut #1 showing was PIS.

I did not once list the Nimrod incident as my reason for that being PIS, read it.

He's saying that the one instance of his being reduced to a skeleton and still functioning is contradicted by the majority of his history which would infer his necessity, and vulnerability, of his brain and nervous system. That D'Spayre situation had magical variables not accounted for or available in this battle scenario.

Originally posted by illadelph12
He's saying that the one instance of his being reduced to a skeleton and still functioning is contradicted by the majority of his history which would infer his necessity, and vulnerability, of his brain and nervous system. That D'Spayre situation had magical variables not accounted for or available in this battle scenario.

College education ftw.

Give me other showings of Juggernaut being incapacitated by attacking his nervous system only, not just his brain. Rendering him unconcious using TP has nothing to do with his nervous system.

So you're saying the brain, nervous system. and sense of hearing are not connected?

not the same delph; a knockout shuts down the whole system top down, but you can also be a quadriplegic and still retain your consciousness as a normal person.

brain dead =/= stephen hawking

Wait, what? Hawkings has sclerosis. It's a neuron atrophy disorder. His muscles can't receive signals from his brain. Am I missing something in that analogy?

My theory is that Juggernaut's bodily functions work "normally" while they are connected to him. When they aren't he's sustained by magic. It seems to work considering how the consciousness and the physical body aren't necessarily connected in the Marvel universe. See - Colossus, Iceman, Absorbing Man, Silver Surfer, anyone who can astral project, etc.

Originally posted by illadelph12
So you're saying the brain, nervous system. and sense of hearing are not connected?

No, I'm saying when a psi shuts Juggernaut down, they're shutting down his brain, not his motor functions like Nimrod did.

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
No, I'm saying when a psi shuts Juggernaut down, they're shutting down his brain, not his motor functions like Nimrod did.

Here's my issue with that line of reasoning:

Nimrod did it by attacking his brain as well. That's how the auditory system works. The ears are the "satellite dishes" receiving and sending the incoming signals to the receiver (brain) for processing. Nimrod caused Juggernaut sensory overload via sonics. He didn't attack his mind, per se, by the "conventional" telepathic means, but he did attack Juggs' brain, and quite effectively at that, just as telepaths do with "psi-bolts". The brain seems to be vulnerable.

Originally posted by Blanket
and uppercuts Juggernaut into an old abondoned warehouse.

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