Originally posted by carver9
Whats up raoul, long time no debate.I know both Billy and Glads and Glads feats are just better, especially his lifting and moving feats, along with his durability feats.
we never really actually "debate" though.
even if that were true, you don't consider their combat feats, no?
Originally posted by -Pr-
we never really actually "debate" though.even if that were true, you don't consider their combat feats, no?
Glads combat speed>>>Billy. I have shown scans of him doing an entire combo in nanoseconds. Thats much faster than light.
I even put up scans where he blitzed at near light speed with him and the narrator saying it. Billy doesnt have those feats.
Originally posted by carver9We have seen him though beaten up by far less than this. We saw him sliced open in war of kings. We saw him overpowered by some character in a vulcan story. I can't remember his name off hand as it's been a while since I read the story. He's been downed by his own hv while the Hulk took it while his durability was taking a downturn in his own comic.
Feats.Gladiator feats and statements about his power are better.
One feat of him containing a solar system destroying blast should indicate to you just how powerful this guy is.
We also saw Masteron Thor almost beat him to death.
Originally posted by -Pr-
where are the scans?
Blitz at near lightspeed.
http://img354.imageshack.us/img354/4850/32505489pi3.jpg
Did a series of combos in a nanosecond.
http://img68.imageshack.us/img68/6687/39597113mf8.jpg
Now go ahead and discredit the feats.
Originally posted by carver9
Blitz at near lightspeed.http://img354.imageshack.us/img354/4850/32505489pi3.jpg
Did a series of combos in a nanosecond.
http://img68.imageshack.us/img68/6687/39597113mf8.jpg
Now go ahead and discredit the feats.
that's not a blitz. heck, it's more a travel speed feat.
where's the combo? he tries to hit hyperion, only to be blocked. hyperion hits back. that aint no combo.
Originally posted by carver9F&%^ing lying
Blitz at near lightspeed.http://img354.imageshack.us/img354/4850/32505489pi3.jpg
Did a series of combos in a nanosecond.
http://img68.imageshack.us/img68/6687/39597113mf8.jpg
Now go ahead and discredit the feats.
Originally posted by carver9
He has always been vulnerable to it, it was stated not to long ago. Thats why he got stabbed with that spear.
What really? I don't remember the last time someone hurt him with magic (or even triued to use magic against him).
Also the spear incident, I thought his durability went down after being tired, killing so many people. Guess I missed the "magic" part.
but seriously other than that spear incident (and im taking your word on that) When has he been hurt by magic? (not being a douche I just really wanted to know because I always thought that he only had one huge weakness)
Originally posted by quanchi112
We have seen him though beaten up by far less than this. We saw him sliced open in war of kings. We saw him overpowered by some character in a vulcan story. I can't remember his name off hand as it's been a while since I read the story. He's been downed by his own hv while the Hulk took it while his durability was taking a downturn in his own comic.We also saw Masteron Thor almost beat him to death.
LOL, masterson thor snuck attack him with his weakness and dropped him. Master thor got CRUSHED that entire fight and you know that quanchi. Stop bringing that up as a low showing when we seen Gladiator standing over masterson thor laughing. He had the opportunity of killing him at any moment but decided to toy with him. That was a none fight.
Who was he over powered by in the vulcan story because to my knowledge he one shotted vulcan. One shotted one of the strongest skrulls on the battle field. One shotted warbird, someone that was killing the entire imperial guards with one blast and fought dozens of other people before being cheap shotted by a magical blade that stabbed him in the torso. The showings that you are talking about was good showings, I didnt see anything low about it.
LOL, please dont tell me you are using the hulk fight. The guy punched hulk a mile and then got up and started dusting his cloths off. How about this, show me gladiator fighting back or throwing more than one punch that entire fight.
Originally posted by -Pr-
that's not a blitz. heck, it's more a travel speed feat.where's the combo? he tries to hit hyperion, only to be blocked. hyperion hits back. that aint no combo.
Read the scan Pr.
He flew to hyperion, punched him, hyperion punched back, he blocked the punch. All of this happened in nanoseconds.
Originally posted by carver9
Read the scan Pr.He flew to hyperion, punched him, hyperion punched back, he blocked the punch. All of this happened in nanoseconds.
i did read the scan. it said he would hit him a few more times. was it shown?
no. it said a nanosecond later AFTER gladiator's punch. gladiator didn't cross that distance and punch him in a nanosecond, nor was it stated.
Originally posted by carver9The point is he was almost beaten to death by Masterson and has nothing to do with who'd win in a fight. he did get lucky but this doesn't change Glads durability just his formidability.
LOL, masterson thor snuck attack him with his weakness and dropped him. Master thor got CRUSHED that entire fight and you know that quanchi. Stop bringing that up as a low showing when we seen Gladiator standing over masterson thor laughing. He had the opportunity of killing him at any moment but decided to toy with him. That was a none fight.Who was he over powered by in the vulcan story because to my knowledge he one shotted vulcan. One shotted one of the strongest skrulls on the battle field. One shotted warbird, someone that was killing the entire imperial guards with one blast and fought dozens of other people before being cheap shotted by a magical blade that stabbed him in the torso. The showings that you are talking about was good showings, I didnt see anything low about it.
LOL, please dont tell me you are using the hulk fight. The guy punched hulk a mile and then got up and started dusting his cloths off. How about this, show me gladiator fighting back or throwing more than one punch that entire fight.
The eldest one I think his name was.
Glads was helpless when Hulk redirected his own hv back into his face. You claimed his durability was miles better and it's not looking that way. You are impressed with feats which don't carry over to the battlefield. If Superman survives a mega bomb what blew up 8 planets he'd still get hurt by Thor's hammer and the same applies to Gladiator. you are all worked up by meaningless feats imo.
Originally posted by quanchi112
The point is he was almost beaten to death by Masterson and has nothing to do with who'd win in a fight. he did get lucky but this doesn't change Glads durability just his formidability.The eldest one I think his name was.
Glads was helpless when Hulk redirected his own hv back into his face. You claimed his durability was miles better and it's not looking that way. You are impressed with feats which don't carry over to the battlefield. If Superman survives a mega bomb what blew up 8 planets he'd still get hurt by Thor's hammer and the same applies to Gladiator. you are all worked up by meaningless feats imo.
Thats not the point when it is meant for the hero to win. Masterson thor got crushed and he also got lucky that Gladiator decided to laugh instead of just taking him out of the fight. People was even mentioning during the fight that Masterson thor was fighting someone that was completely over his league.
The eldest one; oh, you are talking about the cheap shot when he stabbed gladiator after gladiator took out almost every villian that was there and busted through more. If you consider that a low showing, then hey, be my guess.
Gladiator didnt throw a single punch after hitting hulk off of him. If that doesnt tell you something quan then I dont know what does.
Originally posted by carver9Yes, in a fight Glads beats him and I agree. The point is his durability was nothing special as he was beaten senseless in a matter of moments with a rookie with the powers of Thor.
Thats not the point when it is meant for the hero to win. Masterson thor got crushed and he also got lucky that Gladiator decided to laugh instead of just taking him out of the fight. People was even mentioning during the fight that Masterson thor was fighting someone that was completely over his league.The eldest one; oh, you are talking about the cheap shot when he stabbed gladiator after gladiator took out almost every villian that was there and busted through more. If you consider that a low showing, then hey, be my guess.
Gladiator didnt throw a single punch after hitting hulk off of him. If that doesnt tell you something quan then I dont know what does.
I consider it a showing of someone easily overpowering him. You asked for examples and I provided them. You overrate Glads' durability to the point of insanity.
The point is Hulk's durability was lower than usual yet one redirection of hv blast left Glads helpless to the Hulk. He carried him over to the reactor at this point. You claimed his durabiity was leagues better and I just took a dump on your case.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes, in a fight Glads beats him and I agree. The point is his durability was nothing special as he was beaten senseless in a matter of moments with a rookie with the powers of Thor.I consider it a showing of someone easily overpowering him. You asked for examples and I provided them. You overrate Glads' durability to the point of insanity.
The point is Hulk's durability was lower than usual yet one redirection of hv blast left Glads helpless to the Hulk. He carried him over to the reactor at this point. You claimed his durabiity was leagues better and I just took a dump on your case.
But you are not proving anything though. Your arguments are baseless.
The only reasonn Masterson Thor even posed a threat was due to him hitting Gladiator with his WEAKNESS and dropping him. Of course he can pound away on someone that he koed or incapitated with a blast, thats not hard to do but he still didnt have a scratch on him after all of that beating.
He wasnt easily overpowered though. He fought a thousand people before even facing him and got stabbed by a magical (yet again) blade and was still trying to fight. What was low about that? I agree, magic does hurt him but you have to do better than this quan to prove anything about his durability.
So you dont think having your heatvision directed back into your head wouldnt ko you and stop using that fight because its irrelevant. Gladiator wasnt even fighting the hulk.