Originally posted by carver9
Are we talking about the same imperex probes that struggled to take out black lightning and a weakened Supergirl?The imperex probes were slow.
It was stated that doomsday rex was being weakened. Superman even said this.
they didn't struggle, so i don't know where you're getting that.
no, they weren't.
weakened because he could understand the concept of fear?
Originally posted by -Pr-
they didn't struggle, so i don't know where you're getting that.no, they weren't.
weakened because he could understand the concept of fear?
Supergirl and Black lightning stalled an imperex probe and again that Supergirl was nothing. The imperex probe died by a blast that wasnt even the size of a small nuke.
Aquaman defeated an imperex probe. They had no speed, I dont know where you get the idea that they did. The imperex probes isnt as close to be impressive as you are making them out to be. Didnt two of them get there heads taken off by a space ship?
Again, Superman said that he was weakening. His strength along with his speed was deplinishing and it was leaving him fast. Superman wouldnt have said that he wasnt weakening if he couldnt tell.
Gladiator wins. too strong and fast for CM. Combat speed and reaction speed goes to gladiator. But i would like to clear up the term (speedblitz). A speedblitz is when a character reaches his/her target before that target can react or attack, there is no such thing as a speedblitz without travel speed. Gladiator has blitz a radiation machine at near-light speed and carried a massive spaceship out of thors sight in an instant. Also he has a documented travel speed of 100 times lightspeed.
2. Using fights were a character loses to the hero or main character? I see a lot of people use fights were a person has to lose to maintain a storyline. Just like people use low feats for one character, then use high feats for the other. Gladiator has the powerset to beat thor and hulk, but he will lose in the comics because he is not the hero. He will not come to save the earth nor really care what happens to it or its people.
3. One character blitz yet the other bullrush?
How can two character that speed towards a foe be classified as two different approaches? One attacks at near light speed, yet its a bullrush? The other attacks at an unknown speed and its a speedblitz?
4. Conclusion.
Throwing out the comics and what happened in a writer controlled fight. One must use a characters powerset and what is known of them to do. Thus its is very easy to make a claim who would and should win. CM has never displayed the power to destroy a planet, nor the ability to fly at 100 times lightspeed, nor be able to carry a spaceship the size of texas out of sight in an instant. Also the confident thing about gladiator is wrong. Gladiator also has heatvision hotter than stars and freeze breath to use. Since they will be fighting at their best, due to gladiators many advantages... He wins this fight 9/10.
Originally posted by Prep-ManYou are missing the point about writer controlled events.. If i make a thread about CM vs Spectra to the death outside of a comic, who would win?
Marvel took a beating from Spectre and stood up to 5-d Demons and energy. I doubt Glads has what it takes to put down Billy. And if Billy decides to amp up his strength and other atributes, Gladiator will have even a harder time.
Originally posted by carver9
Supergirl and Black lightning stalled an imperex probe and again that Supergirl was nothing. The imperex probe died by a blast that wasnt even the size of a small nuke.Aquaman defeated an imperex probe. They had no speed, I dont know where you get the idea that they did. The imperex probes isnt as close to be impressive as you are making them out to be. Didnt two of them get there heads taken off by a space ship?
Again, Superman said that he was weakening. His strength along with his speed was deplinishing and it was leaving him fast. Superman wouldnt have said that he wasnt weakening if he couldnt tell.
that's not true.
aquaman killed it by breaching it's shell. that's it. not a hard thing to do when you have a MAGICAL TRIDENT AND ARMOUR.
he was talking about his fear. nothing else, iirc.
Back to speed feats from glads.
In an instante his fist becomes and blur of whirling fist (stated by the narrator). Then during all of this punching, he picks up an iron bar and hits reed.
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=5560542
Originally posted by -Pr-
that's not true.aquaman killed it by breaching it's shell. that's it. not a hard thing to do when you have a MAGICAL TRIDENT AND ARMOUR.
he was talking about his fear. nothing else, iirc.
OMG, 😕 , Whats not true? Wonder Womans mother didnt take two imperex probes head of with a ship? I could have sworn thats what I saw. What else isnt true, that the blast didnt have the power of a nuke? Were they not fighting by a base? Wasnt that base still in tact after the blast went off? Wasnt black lightning still standing after the blast? Now prove that the blast had more power than a nuke?
OMG, It was pretty plain and clear that THAT doomsday was extremely weaker than his other counterparts. Post the scans.
Originally posted by carver9
Back to speed feats from glads.In an instante his fist becomes and blur of whirling fist (stated by the narrator). Then during all of this punching, he picks up an iron bar and hits reed.
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=5560542
Not very impressive.
Originally posted by Prep-Man
Not very impressive.
How about this? In earths gravity, he disarms a delta particle device at near light speed.
Originally posted by Prep-Man
Justice's Cap and Barry:http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/17/scan10061vc2.jpg
http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/756/scan10062joinmw8.jpg
http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/3465/scan10064xu6.jpg
None cannon. Tried using these scans but I got wailed on.
Originally posted by Prep-Man
Fighting a bunch of villains at super-speed.http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/5580/justice06005ys0.jpg
http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/7396/justice07005do8.jpg
http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/2150/justice08005fk7.jpg
None cannon. I tried using these scans also and got ripped up.
How about this? He has been operating since his return for hours at hyper speed. Moving at Super speed constantly.
Originally posted by Prep-Man
Like I said, it's non cannon, but he's flown faster to get to the ROE. which IS cannon.
Gladiator flight speed is more impressive since he has flown 100 times the speed of light. I'm not asking for that (and I dont even think its a light speed scan), I want you to show me what I'm showing you and stop showing me scans that means nothing.
Originally posted by carver9
Are we talking about the same imperex probes that struggled to take out black lightning and a weakened Supergirl?The imperex probes were slow.
It was stated that doomsday rex was being weakened. Superman even said this.
Low balling again? The imperiex Probe who faught Superman seemed pretty fast. The Probe that took on Zod and his Army, and gave them a beating seemed strong, etc.
IMO Imperiex Probes ranged from, Mid-High Herald if not higher.
Originally posted by Batman-Prime
Low balling again? The imperiex Probe who faught Superman seemed pretty fast. The Probe that took on Zod and his Army, and gave them a beating seemed strong, etc.IMO Imperiex Probes ranged from, Mid-High Herald if not higher.
Who am I low balling, the imperex probes? Everything that I told you was true. Them getting one shotted by a space ship. Them getting taken out by black lightning and a weak Supergirl. Them getting taken out by Wonderwoman with a shield to the back of the head. Them getting taken out by aquaman.
They were slow but I agree on one thing, the output of power that they had was pretty impressive.
Its nothing low balling about the truth. The imperex probes sucked.
