Originally posted by JakeTheBankI disagree entirely. The Sentry has always been a powerhouse only limited by is fear of his powers. He's easily more powerful than Gladiator and possibly Thor though Thor's greatest feats of power are better at this point imo though some could argue the MM's feat could be.
He's had sporadic showings ranging from low to middle to upper herald. He's powerful, fast, and durable, I'll give him that, but his physical attributes, while impressive if he's having a good day, aren't enough to support his team against people who IMO, can each handidly defeat Sentry in a one-on-one fight. He doesn't have as much to offer his team in comparison to Thor and Glads.
Sentry can go toe to toe with anyone hear physically due to his WW Hulk showing. If he cuts lose and doesn't hold back he's a beast and that's when he lost control and before he even understood his own powers to a certain extent via da 12.
Originally posted by Q99When characters are on a team there is no in fighting which takes place in comics.
And even at his physical strongest he's still mentally vulnerable.Also, I think teamwork wise team 2 has the edge. They've each worked with each other before and can get along without clashing.
Originally posted by quanchi112
When characters are on a team there is no in fighting which takes place in comics.
Not infighting so much as familiarity. Characters who know each other better can predict what their allies will do and set up stuff without alerting their enemies. They can judge the battle better. WW, CM, and Orion have fought side by side before, and WW and Orion have even been on a team together.
Thor only knows Sentry from very brief clashes, and Gladiator doesn't know Sentry at all.
Team 1 definetly has the versatility advantage, big time; Team 2 has overall combat skill advantage, and Diana's weapons can defend against many of the assault abilities of Team 1, as well as be useful in taking down either Sentry or Gladiator.
Generally, I think I'd have to go with Team 1, 6/10, as their versatility is just too big an advantage here (and assuming we are taking Sentry reasonably "seriously", unlike in many other forum posts), but the 4 wins Team 2 gets would be decisive ones, with Diana taking down Sentry (as mentally/spiritually he is the most vulnerable) and then she and CM take down Glads while Orion holds Thor at bay until the three of them can overwhelm Thor (as an example of how one of those wins could play out).
Originally posted by Q99I understand this in a comic book setting but I really don't take this into consideration when making teams vs. teams. I think you put three guys on a team and they will do their best and won't have their egos getting in the way.
Not infighting so much as familiarity. Characters who know each other better can predict what their allies will do and set up stuff without alerting their enemies. They can judge the battle better. WW, CM, and Orion have fought side by side before, and WW and Orion have even been on a team together.Thor only knows Sentry from very brief clashes, and Gladiator doesn't know Sentry at all.
Originally posted by quanchi112
I understand this in a comic book setting but I really don't take this into consideration when making teams vs. teams. I think you put three guys on a team and they will do their best and won't have their egos getting in the way.
It's not a matter of egos getting in the way. It's a matter of having better teamwork through experience. Of being able to do moves with precise timing with your ally because you know their timing, of being able to communicate plans with a glance and a nod instead of a word or a sentence.
Two people who've never worked together won't do quite as well as two who have, even if the first two trust each other and avoid getting in each other's way.
That's what teamwork is.