Originally posted by inimalistI honestly don't know. I haven't witnessed any that I can directly attribute to the fact that once, a hundred years ago, we took advantage of african americans as property. I'm sorry for this. I'd say it to any 19th century african american. I won't say "i'm sorry your great great great great grandfather was brought here forcibly" to any African American today. The fact is, if you compare the countries, the one's here were saved, and they never experienced slavery.
so, you don't think there are any social, economic or personal legacies of slavery that affect [b]YOUR life? [/B]
there is the fact that, apparently, I owe something to african american black negro people of color, which is ridiculous. My ancestors came over to California in the swedish immigration, 50 years after slavery was absolved and the Irish potato famine. They also never committed racism or hate crimes as I can trace my lineage back to Sweden and Ireland.
That's true racism. I've automatically hated all African Americans and enslaved them just because my skin was white.
Originally posted by One Free Man
there is the fact that, apparently, I owe something to african american black negro people of color, which is ridiculous. My ancestors came over to California in the swedish immigration, 50 years after slavery was absolved and the Irish potato famine. They also never committed racism or hate crimes as I can trace my lineage back to Sweden and Ireland.That's true racism. I've automatically hated all African Americans and enslaved them just because my skin was white.
I can one-up you.
My colonial ancestor came here with his family to have "freedom of religion" and pursue new entrepreneurships. (My mother's side. My father's side were Italians that came in in the 1920s...Ellis Island folks.)
He and his family staunchly opposed slavery in any form, and wanted the freedom for people to practice various religions.
Later, during the civil war, a few of my male ancestors fought in the Civil War, on the North side. One of them died.
Based on that, by the reparation logic, doesn't my family deserve reparations from the descendants African Americans slaves for all we sacrificed to make things right by our standards?
Though I didn't do jack to free the slaves and fight for our freedom on religion, by the "reparations" logic, my family deserves reparations. awesome
I disagree with reparations in any form, though. So, I would oppose reparations for descendants of Northerners, as well.
Originally posted by dadudemon
I can one-up you.My colonial ancestor came here with his family to have "freedom of religion" and pursue new entrepreneurships. (My mother's side. My father's side were Italians that came in in the 1920s...Ellis Island folks.)
He and his family staunchly opposed slavery in any form, and wanted the freedom for people to practice various religions.
Later, during the civil war, a few of my male ancestors fought in the Civil War, on the North side. One of them died.
Based on that, by the reparation logic, doesn't my family deserve reparations from the descendants African Americans slaves for all we sacrificed to make things right by our standards?
Though I didn't do jack to free the slaves and fight for our freedom on religion, by the "reparations" logic, my family deserves reparations. awesome
I disagree with reparations in any form, though. So, I would oppose reparations for descendants of Northerners, as well.
Actually, I think you get reparations for things that were forced on you (from the people that forced it on you or their descendants), not things that you did out of your own free will, so that doesn't quite fly.
Originally posted by Bardock42
Actually, I think you get reparations for things that were forced on you (from the people that forced it on you or their descendants), not things that you did out of your own free will, so that doesn't quite fly.
How DARE you make my point fail!
K, so maybe "raparations" is not the correct term. Compensation. 😐