iron fist vs venom

Started by darthgoober4 pages

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
yes, i am aware of the sym doubling the host strength... thats why at most brock would be a 2 tonner and thats at peak lvl strength which the sym would double to 4 tons either way the strongest eddie could be with the sym is 14 tons... 😉

What are you basing it just doubling his host's strength on? I've always been under the impression that it gives Brock the same proportionate increase to his strength that Spidey has rather than adding Spidey's strength to his own. The scan I'm talking about certainly seemed to imply more than a doubling of his natural strength(Brock's no genius so I'm pretty sure he would have used the word "double" rather than "geometric" if that's all it was)...

Rand will just see a blur of black come at him.... he will to punch it but Brock would just envelope him in symbiote junk and eat his head!

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
spidey has also stated that murlon punch harder then anyone he has ever bn punch... circumstantial evidence at best,, 😬

absorbing his clones maybe... i guess... 🙄

i personally wouldnt buy it but whatever...

Spider-man said that because Morlun's punches were draining his life force.

There's really no reason to doubt it because after Venom absorbed the clone he grew size of a small building and said that he had become "more.. so much more", besides even Spider-man at his best can lift more than 15 tons and Venom was always A LOT stronger than him even before the upgrades. He used to physically overpower characters with class 35-50 strength.

Originally posted by SamZED
Spider-man said that because Morlun's punches were draining his life force.

There's really no reason to doubt it because after Venom absorbed the clone he grew size of a small building and said that he had become "more.. so much more", besides even Spider-man at his best can lift more than 15 tons and Venom was always A LOT stronger than him even before the upgrades. He used to physically overpower characters with class 35-50 strength.

are you talking about the symbiote planet storyline?

i dont believe venom maintained any of the upgrade anymore than carnage did soon after the story ended 😕

i'd say venom, but danny could take a couple. surprised these 2 haven't tangled in a book at some point.

Originally posted by King Castle
are you talking about the symbiote planet storyline?

i dont believe venom maintained any of the upgrade anymore than carnage did soon after the story ended 😕

No, I was talking about him absorbing his clone. The one that fought Wolverine?

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Originally posted by SamZED
No, I was talking about him absorbing his clone. The one that fought Wolverine?
scan, pls. my memory is very faulty and i dont believe i have that story

Originally posted by King Castle
scan, pls. my memory is very faulty and i dont believe i have that story
Im gonna need time. Havent read the book in a very long time. Will try to find it.

For now, short version. Someone created a Venom symbiote. It fought Logan and bonded to him for awhile. Then it bonded to some chick, Brock beat her and absorbed the clone vastly increasing his mass. He then could grow so big his head was size of Spider-man. That is how Gargan could grow so big in Dark Reign. And that's why Spider-man commented on Venom being in Thing's league, which could be an exaggeration. Still, he's stronger than before.

Originally posted by SamZED
Im gonna need time. Havent read the book in a very long time. Will try to find it.

For now, short version. Someone created a Venom symbiote. It fought Logan and bonded to him for awhile. Then it bonded to some chick, Brock beat her and absorbed the clone vastly increasing his mass. He then could grow so big his head was size of Spider-man. That is how Gargan could grow so big in Dark Reign. And that's why Spider-man commented on Venom being in Thing's league, which could be an exaggeration. Still, he's stronger than before.

I think as much was stated about the Venom symbiote a number of times after the Venom ongoing ended.

And I remember people making fun of my assertions that Venom was in a new strength class telling me I was pulling things out of my ass.. Couple years later Venom's hitting the ground so hard he's causing the earth to quake and trolly cars to go airborn...

Originally posted by jinzin
I think as much was stated about the Venom symbiote a number of times after the Venom ongoing ended.

And I remember people making fun of my assertions that Venom was in a new strength class telling me I was pulling things out of my ass.. Couple years later Venom's hitting the ground so hard he's causing the earth to quake and trolly cars to go airborn...

Some people still think he can only lift 11 tons because of the bios. 😂

Originally posted by King Castle
scan, pls. my memory is very faulty and i dont believe i have that story
Got it: