Originally posted by inimalistsure it is, but freedom forever involves going to a school that doesn't have absurd laws and a biased outlook on fashion, history, and science.
hair is not a part of "freedom forever", then?
In that way, if you are letting your kids learn from someone else, you have already sacrificed your freedom to let your kids live as you see fit.
Originally posted by One Free Man
sure it is, but freedom forever involves going to a school that doesn't have absurd laws and a biased outlook on fashion, history, and science.In that way, if you are letting your kids learn from someone else, you have already sacrificed your freedom to let your kids live as you see fit.
but within a system of laws you are totally in favor of arbitrarily penalizing people for attire?
Originally posted by Darth Jello
Every time I see something like this, I always think back. At least it's not as bad as it was after Columbine.
I read a good paper on Columbine a couple of years ago. Apparently, before it, school shootings and violence were on the decline.
Columbine coinsided with the day of heaviest bombing in the Kosovo thing (I don't really know the history of this one). The theory was that "the powers that be" sensationalized it to get the war off of tv (which iirc was started to get Monica Lewinsky off of TV, or maybe im confusing things...)
i hate when judges feel the need to penalize people b/c they showed up in what the person at the time felt was their best clothes....
i mean why the f$%#@ is a judge more concerned that a construction worker came straight to court in jeans and a shirt rather then what he did in violation of the law.. half the time its a minor traffic ticket
Originally posted by inimalist
I read a good paper on Columbine a couple of years ago. Apparently, before it, school shootings and violence were on the decline.Columbine coinsided with the day of heaviest bombing in the Kosovo thing (I don't really know the history of this one). The theory was that "the powers that be" sensationalized it to get the war off of tv (which iirc was started to get Monica Lewinsky off of TV, or maybe im confusing things...)
Wag the Dog
true... their was this guy in my home town who shot at a judge for abusing his authority.. the judge had it coming 'cause apparently his behavior had bn documented many times but no one did anything about his belligerent attitude and was allowed to continue demeaning and handing out severe punishments and absurd rulings..
i actually saw it as the judge had it coming and deserved it but the stupid bullet proof window deflected the shot....
Originally posted by Robtard
Wag the Dog
indeed
I don't think I'm confusing it for the movie though...
Originally posted by Darth Jello
Living 12 miles from it when it happened was no picnic the last five years of K-12 education.
it was bad enough up here, I can only imagine.
So, are metal detectors common to all schools in the US? was this around before the Columbine thing?
Originally posted by Wild Shadow
i actually saw it as the judge had it coming and deserved it but the stupid bullet proof window deflected the shot....
weird... do they have bulletproof glass in all American courts?
Originally posted by inimalist
indeedSo, are metal detectors common to all schools in the US? was this around before the Columbine thing?
some inner schools have metal detectors not all of them...or not the majority last time i checked. inner schools had metal detectors long before Columbine.
Originally posted by inimalist
indeed
weird... do they have bulletproof glass in all American courts?
no, the judge only had bullet proof window in his office. the guy posted across the street in a parking garage roof. he had a sniper rifle and shot at the judge while he was working on some papers. the bullet proof glass was enough to deflect the bullet and send it to his shoulder rather then his head.
Originally posted by inimalist
people that become judges likely are happy to have power
Well, they're are upholding a 'rule' here, which is what we been talking about but mentioning power, I'll mention an episode where a magistrate abused his power.
He went to a function in the city and parked his mercedes in front of the drive way of the garage of a private house. For the owner it was just some John Doe wanting to eat out so he quickly pointed that out to him that he was obstructing his drive way and that if he didnt move, he would have his car towed away.
So what does this magistrate do? He phones the police and reports that he is being threatened. The police come, take the details of the incredilous man and inform him that the magistrate has a right to park there and warn the man that further action will be taken against him.
Now that is abuse of power.
what rule? i understand their are certain attire your not allowed to wear since i been in and out of the judges courtroom from my teens to early 20's never convicted i might add... 😄
the rules are pretty basic, no open top shoes/sandles, no shirts with graffity or bands or logo's no chains or excessive clothing jewelery...or ripped clothing, no food, drinks or gum
i mean why should a judge get to choice who to allow and not allow in his court room based on clothing and outward appearance?
i think it is a form of class discrimination not everyone owns or wears suits hell not everyone in america have the same concept of what is appropriate clothing due to having different cultures....
a construction worker should be allowed to come to court wearing what he feels is appropriate clothing a nice pair of jeans boots shoes a belt and tucked in flannel shirt and combed hair.
Originally posted by inimalistI am against being searched for stolen property in wal mart because I never took agreement to be searched on the way out when I entered. I never let them.
but within a system of laws you are totally in favor of arbitrarily penalizing people for attire?
I am for being searched for stolen property on the way out from costco because I wrote my name on the bottom of the paper forfeiting my invulnerability to illegal search and seizure on the way out.
Same things with schools. You send your kid to the school, you agree to follow the dress code.
Originally posted by Wild ShadowI've worked in the construction business and most construction workers I've met do not match this description. I hate you for stereotyping our culture.
a construction worker should be allowed to come to court wearing what he feels is appropriate clothing a nice pair of jeans boots shoes a belt and tucked in flannel shirt and combed hair.
Actually, every construction worker I've known does have a suit, some formal attire, and dresses in "sunday best" for things like court appearances.