Originally posted by Blanket
Only when they throw in characters that they wrote themselves into having to be at the final battle.It's not like Batgirl/Green Arrow were fighting an uber durable guy though either...
But yeah, this isn't working. King Thor is going down.
Originally posted by gogogadgetgo
yes he will, so will odin. why do you think they need to take some nappy time every now and then? or was it once a month? depending on their usage of he odinforce.
i don't think that how the odin sleep works....
anyway, i don't think thor has to do that, atleast not from what i saw.
Originally posted by JakeTheBankMy point was only that Thor has fared very well against overwhelming odds before without whipping out his best stuff at classic levels. King Thor was tanking obliteration blasts from the Destroyer.
Yeah, Thor is incredibly powerful, but the comparison to the Corps to trolls is a bit unfair, imo. Despite being fodder in the general sense, each of them offers Thor a decent distraction simply due to their versatility and sheer numbers. Thor isn't going to know which Lanterns are the main threats, and a continuous onslaught from thousands of Lanterns are going to take it's toll on him.I agree that no one single Lantern would probably be able to equal the damage output of the Destroyer's beams, but in the long run, it's going to add up. And that's without taking into effect that any fallen Lanterns will leave behind spare weapons for the remaining survivors.
He can oneshot each lantern he basically attacks.
It won't add up in team. They have nowhere near the power to beat Thor before he walks through these guys.
Originally posted by quanchi112
My point was only that Thor has fared very well against overwhelming odds before without whipping out his best stuff at classic levels. King Thor was tanking obliteration blasts from the Destroyer.He can oneshot each lantern he basically attacks.
It won't add up in team. They have nowhere near the power to beat Thor before he walks through these guys.
Again, I'm not disputing Thor's (much less King Thor's) durability or his offense capabilities, but 7200 Lanterns is a lot, especially if they pool together resources and power to combat a single threat. Individual Lanterns such as Hal or Kyle have also faced insane odds and dire threats and have overcome them to say nothing of the Corps as a whole.
Sure, if Thor can hit them, he can oneshot most of the Lanterns, but I think you're underestimating the Corps' ability to work together, strategize, and get the job done. Every Lantern Thor puts down just leaves behind a power ring for another Lantern to wield, however briefly. I mean, hundreds of power rings add up in terms of firepower and damage. Even garden variety rookies can offer something to the battle plan, either by slowing Thor down or restricting him somehow.
But, I can see we're probably not going to agree here. I just have a hard time believing King Thor can solo the entire Green Lantern Corps, including the Alpha Lanterns, Mogo, The Corpse, etc.
Do you think King Thor beats the Guardians all at once and is able to defeat Ion?
Originally posted by JakeTheBankDue to heroes having to win against overwhelming odds. This happens all the time, but in a forum battle it doesn't.
Again, I'm not disputing Thor's (much less King Thor's) durability or his offense capabilities, but 7200 Lanterns is a lot, especially if they pool together resources and power to combat a single threat. Individual Lanterns such as Hal or Kyle have also faced insane odds and dire threats and have overcome them to say nothing of the Corps as a whole.Sure, if Thor can hit them, he can oneshot most of the Lanterns, but I think you're underestimating the Corps' ability to work together, strategize, and get the job done. Every Lantern Thor puts down just leaves behind a power ring for another Lantern to wield, however briefly. I mean, hundreds of power rings add up in terms of firepower and damage. Even garden variety rookies can offer something to the battle plan, either by slowing Thor down or restricting him somehow.
But, I can see we're probably not going to agree here. I just have a hard time believing King Thor can solo the entire Green Lantern Corps, including the Alpha Lanterns, Mogo, The Corpse, etc.
Do you think King Thor beats the Guardians all at once and is able to defeat Ion?
I'd rather not get sidetracked into another mini debate here with King Thor taking on half of the dc universe.
If Thor fights to the best of his ability and the corps does the gl's lose.
Too powerful, too durable, the odinforce is too much.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Due to heroes having to win against overwhelming odds. This happens all the time, but in a forum battle it doesn't.I'd rather not get sidetracked into another mini debate here with King Thor taking on half of the dc universe.
If Thor fights to the best of his ability and the corps does the gl's lose.
Too powerful, too durable, the odinforce is too much.
Well, I only said that the Corps overcome the odds in response to you saying that Thor does, which is true in both cases. It doesn't mean a whole lot in a forum battle, but taking into account things such as mettle and, of course, willpower, it is a valid point to make for characters.
He's not going to be fighting half of the DC Universe. I only asked because the OP added later in the thread that the fight is split into three scenarios:
1.) King Thor vs. GLC (minus Guardians and Ion)
2.) King Thor vs. Guardians of the Universe
3.) King Thor vs. Ion (Classic)
I'm just curious to see where you stand on Thor's chances in the other fights.
I'm just of the opinion that if the entire Corps all fight to the best of their ability, their versatility and sheer power output will be enough to win this in spades.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank1)King Thor
Well, I only said that the Corps overcome the odds in response to you saying that Thor does, which is true in both cases. It doesn't mean a whole lot in a forum battle, but taking into account things such as mettle and, of course, willpower, it is a valid point to make for characters.He's not going to be fighting half of the DC Universe. I only asked because the OP added later in the thread that the fight is split into three scenarios:
1.) King Thor vs. GLC (minus Guardians and Ion)
2.) King Thor vs. Guardians of the Universe
3.) King Thor vs. Ion (Classic)I'm just curious to see where you stand on Thor's chances in the other fights.
I'm just of the opinion that if the entire Corps all fight to the best of their ability, their versatility and sheer power output will be enough to win this in spades.
Not a chance. Just like Prime easily waxes the gl's like batmen I can see Thor doing so even faster.
Originally posted by quanchi112
1)King Thor
2)King Thor
3)Probably Ion.Not a chance. Just like Prime easily waxes the gl's like batmen I can see Thor doing so even faster.
Prime killed 32 Lanterns and injured Hal and a couple of others in the process. And iirc, the Lanterns weren't allowed to use excessive force until Prime killed about a dozen of them first in the span of seconds. If Prime were to face the entire Corps in a forum setting, he'd get his ass kicked. The fact that Guy and Hal were able to cause Prime enough discomfort to elicit even a groan from him, lets me know that if Prime fought all of them in concert, he would have lost, especially in a PIS/CIS free setting.
You also have to keep in mind that Prime's speed was a HUGE factor in how he massacred the Corps. While his strength and durability were both through the roof, his ability to quickly plow their the numbers helped him immensely. I don't see King Thor having the same advantage in terms of speed. Sure, he has enough power and durability to hold his own against about 30-40ish like Prime, but 7200 standard Green Lanterns from their respective sectors, the Alpha Lanterns, Lanterns residing on Oa, and the top tier Lanterns such as Hal, Kyle, John, Guy, etc is a lot for most Skyfather beings.
Originally posted by JakeTheBankI agree Prime would probably go down against the entire corps mind you, but come on Superboy has fared better against Prime than these lanterns.
Prime killed 32 Lanterns and injured Hal and a couple of others in the process. And iirc, the Lanterns weren't allowed to use excessive force until Prime killed about a dozen of them first in the span of seconds. If Prime were to face the entire Corps in a forum setting, he'd get his ass kicked. The fact that Guy and Hal were able to cause Prime enough discomfort to elicit even a groan from him, lets me know that if Prime fought all of them in concert, he would have lost, especially in a PIS/CIS free setting.You also have to keep in mind that Prime's speed was a HUGE factor in how he massacred the Corps. While his strength and durability were both through the roof, his ability to quickly plow their the numbers helped him immensely. I don't see King Thor having the same advantage in terms of speed. Sure, he has enough power and durability to hold his own against about 30-40ish like Prime, but 7200 standard Green Lanterns from their respective sectors, the Alpha Lanterns, Lanterns residing on Oa, and the top tier Lanterns such as Hal, Kyle, John, Guy, etc is a lot for most Skyfather beings.
Prime also wasn't trying to stick around so he could have destroyed more if his goal wasn't to try and obliterate the universe.
For most skyfather beings not for King Thor. The odinforce has shown us the most impressive feats and demonstrations of power.
I just don't see these lanterns with their combined efforts bringing enough power to the table to defeat thor.
Originally posted by gogogadgetgo
yes he will, so will odin. why do you think they need to take some nappy time every now and then? or was it once a month? depending on their usage of he odinforce.
The only times I can remember Odin being particularly tired is after he had to remove all of Asgard to another dimension/timeline. Also when he had been in war with the Dark Gods, tortured for a couple of months, continously had the Odinforce drained from his body and then was poisoned by Tarakis for several months after that again, preventing him from recuperating.
Originally posted by Endless Mike
Yes but if he's fighting them all at once he's going to deal with being overwhelmed by combined attacks from all of them.