I think alot of people don't get it. Yes GL isn't a dialogue master, but they don't need to necessarily speak the way "we do." Has anyone ever heard Shakespearean plays?
The dialogue in the Padme/Anakin scenes isn't meant to teach Junior High students how to get a girl to go to the prom with you.
Remember, it's a long time ago, in a galaxy far far away....Not Earth. They don't need to speak "rich Hollywood" dialogue.
Embrace Star Wars for what it was always meant to be, a visual story. We should all realize that by this point. I don't know why we continue to nitpick the dialogue. It is what it is. It's time to move on I think.
Originally posted by Sith Master X
Embrace Star Wars for what it was always meant to be, a visual story. We should all realize that by this point. I don't know why we continue to nitpick the dialogue. It is what it is. It's time to move on I think.
Star Wars made an impact because its universe also felt very believeable. The love story is far from that.
I think it all depends on that whole cult following. Some films live on forever, while others remain popular for a while then sort of die a slow and painful death.
2 years ago at this time, the only thing people were talking about was "The Dark Knight." That went on for months even after the movie was released. Now? You don't hear to much about it, and in 10 years, it's just another movie.
Star Wars just has that certain magic that no franchise has been able to touch. Even if the newer ones didn't live up to everyone's expectations,
it still drew all the old fans and new fans back to the theaters, and I'll always stand by saying ROTS shouldn't be classified as "PT garbage" since I believe....at best...it was at least better than one of the originals. ROTJ. Just my opinion though.
But that was always my point. Why are they only better than ROTJ? (IMHO not all of the PT movies are, ROTS is). This was the first time Lucas hardly had any limitations, both moneywise as well as technology wise. And somehow he is not able to get a decent story on screen, nor is he able to make movies that bring a mind blowing new look or style, like LOTR did and for instance Avatar did. To me that is quite incomprehensible.
I think it's just the way they turned out to be honest. Sometimes a decent story can be overshadowed by a poor atmosphere.
I think the biggest disadvantage the PT had going for it was the fact that Vader (behind the helmet) was only something we would get to experience at the end of ROTS, where in the OT, he was the dominant force in ANH, ESB, and ROTJ. Think about it actually, what is the OT without Vader? I think he's the one that made those films as iconic as they are. I know Han Solo and the rest of the cast made it great also, but Vader was the foundation of it.
It's just weird though. I can promise you, as a director, nobody goes out with the intention of destroying their films. Spielberg I'm sure didn't mean to ruin Indiana Jones....even though, while I enjoyed Krystal Skull, it certainly wasn't on par with the original 3. Just because GL pushed for an alien storyline doesn't mean the film couldn't work. There have been several "alien" films that have all worked incredibly well....it's just how everything pans out in the end. The locations you film, the chemistry, the look, feel atmosphere....sometimes by luck it works....other times, it's just didn't have it. Of course, having a good story is a given.