Darth Vader vs Kyle Katarn

Originally posted by Maester_yoda

Also in another novel, The third book of the coruscant nights series. Jax pavan, who was losing his connection with the force, and prince Xizor were able to fight Vader and leave. A weakened Jedi and a non-force user fight and surviving Vader. Anakin would have killed them no problem. Point is Vader is a weakend version of the former Anakin, and is in no way ready to win this battle.

Seeing how vader was able to casually tool powerful force users strong enough to rip a space stations module apart while sending it into critical condition, being able to tank lightning that brought down an ATAT, choking xizor millions of lightyears away nearly killing him if it weren't for sidious and destroying massive pillars is a sheer indicator that vader is a beast in the force and far from the weakling you are trying to portray him to be.

Originally posted by Maester_yoda

I agree with you there, but its going to hurt a machine more, don't you think. Im not saying its a one shot kill, but its going to help Kyle win.

Seeing how vader was able to casually tool powerful force users strong enough to rip a space stations module apart while sending it into critical condition, being able to tank lightning that brought down an ATAT, choking xizor millions of lightyears away nearly killing him if it weren't for sidious and destroying massive pillars is a sheer indicator that vader is a beast in the force and far from the weakling you are trying to portray him to be.

Believe what you want, but TFU ruined star wars and conflicts with canon higher up than the game. Vader is a weaker version of himself.

How do machines feel pain? And seeing how he was able to shrug off lightning from an overpowered gary stu, i don't see a single blast of lightning from kyle bringing down this beast.

They don't feel pain, they shut down. ya know break down. kinda like when the jawas hit R2 with an ion blast....yeeeaaah

Originally posted by Maester_yoda
[B]Believe what you want, but TFU ruined star wars and conflicts with canon higher up than the game. Vader is a weaker version of himself.

Originally posted by ares834
Lol... What does it conflict with? What higher canon source does it conflict with? And how does it make anything he said any less true?

Originally posted by Maester_yoda
Believe what you want, but TFU ruined star wars and conflicts with canon higher up than the game. Vader is a weaker version of himself.

Originally posted by Maester_yoda

They don't feel pain, they shut down. ya know break down. kinda like when the jawas hit R2 with an ion blast....yeeeaaah

Originally posted by mattatom
I guess he means the movies where Vaders best Force feat was throwing his saber.

Originally posted by BoratBorat
If he truly wants to use that logic then 90% of the characters have yet to do jack in the "highest form of canon".

TFU should just be seen as what the Force really looks like when people use it.

Then everyone would be happy and we wouldn't have bizarre inconsistencies in levels of ability.

Originally posted by BoratBorat
Yet you mentioned machines felt pain when hit with lightning, way to go contradicting yourself.

I didn't say that......

Originally posted by Maester_yoda
Believe what you want, but TFU ruined star wars and conflicts with canon higher up than the game. Vader is a weaker version of himself.

They don't feel pain, they shut down. ya know break down. kinda like when the jawas hit R2 with an ion blast....yeeeaaah

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Originally posted by SIDIOUS 66
Galen struck Vader with lightning and Vader continued to fight. Palpatine sent torrents and torrents of lightning through Vader's suit, and Vader still kept going and managed to kill Palpatine. When has Vader been shut down after being hit by lightning? Vader took Sidious's lightning better than Yoda did.

Originally posted by SIDIOUS 66
Tell me one person who took Sidious's lightning the way Vader did.

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Originally posted by SIDIOUS 66
How does it contradict higher form of canon. Vader is a weaker version of what he was suppose to be.

Galen struck Vader with lightning and Vader continued to fight. Palpatine sent torrents and torrents of lightning through Vader's suit, and Vader still kept going and managed to kill Palpatine. When has Vader been shut down after being hit by lightning? Vader took Sidious's lightning better than Yoda did. Tell me one person who took Sidious's lightning the way Vader did.

Yoda had a much better showing against Sidious's lightning than Vader did. actually managed to repel it back at him, barehanded.

Originally posted by truejedi
Yoda had a much better showing against Sidious's lightning than Vader did. actually managed to repel it back at him, barehanded.

That was due to a technique Yoda knew that Vader did not. When the lightning actually struck Yoda, it blasted him unconscience.

There's some great logic at work here:

Vader is stronger because he let himself get hit by Force Lightning for 8 seconds and survived for about 10 minutes.

Yoda, who was able to block that same attack with his bare hands, is weaker, because he didn't die when he got hit by lightning.

That was due to a technique Yoda knew that Vader did not. When the lightning actually struck Yoda, it blasted him unconscience.

The lightning killed Vader and knocked Yoda unconscious. I think you've proven my point.

yoda got hit by a relatively short blast of lightning compared to vader..that same blast knocked yoda across the room and rendered him unconscious..if yoda was attacked continuously by lightning as vader was, without his technique, can you prove he would survive any longer than vader?

Vader, in a mechanical suit, minus a hand, following a defeat, died later from Palpatine's Lightning---Lightning that, prior to Vader's intervention was being used as a torture device, not an execution device. Ergo: less lethal.

Yoda, the greatest foe the etc etc., fresh from not being in a battle, was blacked out momentarily by Palpatine's Lightning---Palpatine who so readily tried to flee a minute later. Ergo: he had good reason to amp up the voltage.

Yoda, the greatest foe the etc etc., in the heat of battle, pooled and deflected Palpatine's Lightning---Lightning the greatest Sith Lord etc etc. was using to defeat the greatest foe the etc etc. Ergo: he had good reason to try and crispy critter the little green friend.

Ergo: Yoda>>Vader.