Surtur Vs Thanos

Started by Stranglehold30012 pages

Originally posted by zopzop
The point is, an unamped Thor caused Surtur to cry out in pain on one occasion and on another more recent occasion, he cut off his freaking tongue! Do you get this? If it was a one time thing, fine. But it's happened at least twice that I can recall.

Thanos has tanked Thor's attacks without throwing up shields or even defending himself. Thanos didn't cry out in pain, let alone lose a body part. 😮‍💨

And what point do you not get that it was CLASSIC SURTUR. I am not speaking English? And since you want to you low showings and PIS.

Here is how Thanos fared against Odin.
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Here is how Surtur fared against Odin(he killed him).

Show me Thanos killing someone on Odins level and without prep or help. Please do. I'll wait

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos Imperative. Read up on the characters before passing judgment.

Already read and I clearly know what Thanos is capable of. Him defeating Lord Marvel does not put him on Odins or Surturs level.

Originally posted by Stranglehold300
Already read and I clearly know what Thanos is capable of. Him defeating Lord Marvel does not put him on Odins or Surturs level.
Thanos tanked the blade empowered by the cancer verse.

Originally posted by Stranglehold300
And what point do you not get that it was CLASSIC SURTUR. I am not speaking English? And since you want to you low showings and PIS.

Here is how Thanos fared against Odin.
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Here is how Surtur fared against Odin(he killed him).

Show me Thanos killing someone on Odins level and without prep or help. Please do. I'll wait


Surtur had Twilight with him. Twilight is a powerful artifact. This isn't Surtur w/Twilight Sword vs Thanos. This is Surtur vs Thanos.

And I just told you. I gave you two examples of Thor hurting Surtur. One was classic the other, more humiliating one, happened more recently.

Thor was in NO way amped and Surtur was in no way hindered. It was Thor vs Surtur and Thor made him cry out in pain and in a later showing, cut off a body part.

Thor did nothing worth mentioning vs Thanos. He sure as hell didn't sever a body part.

Originally posted by zopzop
Surtur had Twilight with him. Twilight is a powerful artifact. This isn't Surtur w/Twilight Sword vs Thanos. This is Surtur vs Thanos.

And I just told you. I gave you two examples of Thor hurting Surtur. One was classic the other, more humiliating one, happened more recently.

Thor was in NO way amped and Surtur was in no way hindered. It was Thor vs Surtur and Thor made him cry out in pain and in a later showing, cut off a body part.

Thor did nothing worth mentioning vs Thanos. He sure as hell didn't sever a body part.

The Twilight Sword is standard gear for Surtur.

Thor being able to hurt Surtur being used as denouncement of the fire demon is one of the silliest things I've ever heard. Thor fluctuates a lot and has hurt plenty of beings above Thanos' level, including even Odin.

If you're talking about the scene I think you are, Thor hurt Surtur in the same comic where Surtur was beating up Odin and his Asgardian's. Thanos can't replicate either feat, not even close.

You might as well argue that Thor beats Thanos into the ground Masteron one-shot Thanos with the Infinity Gauntlet. Please let's exercise our common sense.

Originally posted by zopzop
Surtur had Twilight with him. Twilight is a powerful artifact. This isn't Surtur w/Twilight Sword vs Thanos. This is Surtur vs Thanos.

And I just told you. I gave you two examples of Thor hurting Surtur. One was classic the other, more humiliating one, happened more recently.

Thor was in NO way amped and Surtur was in no way hindered. It was Thor vs Surtur and Thor made him cry out in pain and in a later showing, cut off a body part.

Thor did nothing worth mentioning vs Thanos. He sure as hell didn't sever a body part.

Surtur didn't use the twlight sword when he killed Odin, he blasted him.

And scans?

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
The Twilight Sword is standard gear for Surtur.

Thor being able to hurt Surtur being used as denouncement of the fire demon is one of the silliest things I've ever heard. Thor fluctuates a lot and has hurt plenty of beings above Thanos' level, including even Odin.

If you're talking about the scene I think you are, Thor hurt Surtur in the same comic where Surtur was beating up Odin and his Asgardian's. Thanos can't replicate either feat, not even close.

You might as well argue that Thor beats Thanos into the ground Masteron one-shot Thanos with the Infinity Gauntlet. Please let's exercise our common sense.

Thanks.

Thor also hurt the Chaos King. Does that mean Thanos could defeat the Chaos King?

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
The Twilight Sword is standard gear for Surtur.

Thor being able to hurt Surtur being used as denouncement of the fire demon is one of the silliest things I've ever heard. Thor fluctuates a lot and has hurt plenty of beings above Thanos' level, including even Odin.

If you're talking about the scene I think you are, Thor hurt Surtur in the same comic where Surtur was beating up Odin and his Asgardian's. Thanos can't replicate either feat, not even close.


Can you post the tongue cutting scan?

You might as well argue that Thor beats Thanos into the ground Masteron one-shot Thanos with the Infinity Gauntlet. Please let's exercise our common sense.

Thanos was playing a game to win over Mistress Death. Surtur wasn't playing any game when Thor made him cry out in pain or cut off his freaking tongue.

Surtur has actually defeated Odin when they've fought and/or drove Odin to go all-out to win.

Thanos never even budged Odin when they fought and merely managed to piss him off.

This isn't hard. Thanos is out of Surtur's weight class entirely.

Originally posted by ODG
Surtur has actually defeated Odin when they've fought and/or drove Odin to go all-out to win.

Thanos never even budged Odin when they fought and merely managed to piss him off.

This isn't hard. Thanos is out of Surtur's weight class entirely.

Quit ignoring his upgrades and cherry picking certain scenes incorrectly.

Originally posted by Stranglehold300
Thanks.

Thor also hurt the Chaos King. Does that mean Thanos could defeat the Chaos King?


When did he hurt him? It was more like startled.

Originally posted by zopzop

Can you post the tongue cutting scan?

Thanos was playing a game to win over Mistress Death. Surtur wasn't playing any game when Thor made him cry out in pain or cut off his freaking tongue. [/B]

Tongue cutting? Are you referring to this:

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
"Mjolnir, carried beyond Asgard, intertwined with the Sea of Space, fed by the Sun of Midgard, the strength of uru, the magic of Odin and the [b]Mighty Will of THOR!"

[/B]

Thanos wanted to show off his abilities by cutting off his omnipotence and facing the heroes with only his power, giving them a glimmer of hope. He was however still massively amped and was killing heroes left and right. He was knocked the f*ck out at least temporarily and nothing in the comic even hinted at him playing possum or anything of the sort. If you want to just take feats at just their most basic and ignore any type of common sense, Thor one shot kills Thanos without an Infinity Gauntlet:
http://s779.photobucket.com/user/R-O-G/media/Thor/ThorvsThanos1.jpg.html
http://s779.photobucket.com/user/R-O-G/media/Thor/ThorvsThanos2.jpg.html
http://s779.photobucket.com/user/R-O-G/media/Thor/ThorvsThanos3.jpg.html

Thanos teleported the hammer because he was scared of getting hit again. dur

Originally posted by zopzop
When did he hurt him? It was more like startled.

He was beating the f*ck out of Hercules and that lightning bolt turned the tables enough for Hercules to mount one last attack.

Thanos gets wrecked in this "fight". I doubt that his anus will ever recover from what Surtur is going to do to it.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Tongue cutting? Are you referring to this:

Yes that's it.

Thanos wanted to show off his abilities by cutting off his omnipotence and facing the heroes with only his power, giving them a glimmer of hope. He was however still massively amped and was killing heroes left and right. He was knocked the f*ck out at least temporarily and nothing in the comic even hinted at him playing possum or anything of the sort. If you want to just take feats at just their most basic and ignore any type of common sense, Thor one shot kills Thanos without an Infinity Gauntlet:
http://s779.photobucket.com/user/R-O-G/media/Thor/ThorvsThanos1.jpg.html
http://s779.photobucket.com/user/R-O-G/media/Thor/ThorvsThanos2.jpg.html
http://s779.photobucket.com/user/R-O-G/media/Thor/ThorvsThanos3.jpg.html

You'd have a point except we saw this scenario play out in reverse order : Thor with PG vs Thanos with......nothing. Thanos gave as good as he got till he got bored with the fight and force blocked Thor. The end.

Since both fights were written by the same person, Starlin, we can clearly see that Thanos was phucking around when he fought the heroes with 'just' the Power Gem.

EDIT - The rematch was written by Marz, Starlin's protege.

He was beating the f*ck out of Hercules and that lightning bolt turned the tables enough for Hercules to mount one last attack.

He startled him dude. That's all he did.

Originally posted by zopzop
When did he hurt him? It was more like startled.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/11113/111132618/3435515-3299168-1814844744-56563.jpg

Originally posted by Stranglehold300
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/11113/111132618/3435515-3299168-1814844744-56563.jpg

I know the scan. What of it? CK cry out in pain? No. Thor do any kind of visible damage? No. So......?

Originally posted by zopzop

Yes that's it.

You'd have a point except we saw this scenario play out in reverse order : Thor with PG vs Thanos with......nothing. Thanos gave as good as he got till he got bored with the fight and force blocked Thor. The end.

Since both fights were written by the same person, Starlin, we can clearly see that Thanos was phucking around when he fought the heroes with 'just' the Power Gem.

He startled him dude. That's all he did.

Yes, Thanos got "bored" but he knew that sooner rather then later Thor would reach a level far beyond Thanos and the Infinity Watch combined. Also, Thor was technically weaker then ever going into Blood and Thunder.

Or....and maybe, JUST maybe, things aren't as linear as you think and Thor being able to rock the shit out of Odin, Surtur, Phoenix and so on doesn't mean Thanos beats either or even has any real chance outside of being a punching bag. It's also no coincidence that Thor looked a hell of a lot more impressive against the Thanos (Clone) in his own book.

I disagree based on how greatly the tables turned:
http://s1081.photobucket.com/user/igniz5/media/HerculesVsCK10.jpg.html?t=1303265333
http://i1081.photobucket.com/albums/j351/igniz5/ThorelectricutesCK.jpg
http://s1081.photobucket.com/user/igniz5/media/HercPunchesCK1.jpg.html?t=1303265421

But whatever. Anyways, Thanos has a slightly better chance of beating Surtur in this thread then Thor has of beating Thanos with Universal power. I don't find either likely based on what we know of the combatants but whatever.

Anyway hurting beings that are way more powerful then themselves is quite normal in comics. It doesn't mean shit in the grand scheme of things.

Surtur.

Not a hard decision to make. 😬

Originally posted by kgkg
Anyway hurting beings that are way more powerful then themselves is quite normal in comics. It doesn't mean shit in the grand scheme of things.
When a character has a long, storied career of doing it, then it surely means a great deal in the grand scheme of things. It's why most people place Thor that much higher than Beta Ray Bill. Or Superman that much higher than Mon-El.