Originally posted by quanchi112
This doesn't suggest it can defeat the a wave on it's own. The cc an dig have been shown the ability to do basically everything but even these plot devices have limitations.
it's a miracle machine. you get one miracle, and superman wished for a happy ending. cue massive reality manipulation.
at the very least, it would wipe out 99% of the wave.
it's all moot anyway, seeing as how the miracle machine wouldn't be in this fight...
Originally posted by -Pr-I understand for the most part the point of the mm but saying it could just end the wave or 99 percent of the wave isn't supportable imo as the un as we have seen it end everything(basically) in one simple press of a button.
it's a miracle machine. you get one miracle, and superman wished for a happy ending. cue massive reality manipulation.at the very least, it would wipe out 99% of the wave.
it's all moot anyway, seeing as how the miracle machine wouldn't be in this fight...
Both tactics are out though as it takes the fun away from whichever side you see winning.
Originally posted by quanchi112
I understand for the most part the point of the mm but saying it could just end the wave or 99 percent of the wave isn't supportable imo as the un as we have seen it end everything(basically) in one simple press of a button.Both tactics are out though as it takes the fun away from whichever side you see winning.
how is it not supportable? it creats miracles.
look at what superman did by using it once. it has on panel evidence of being incredibly powerful, and when you consider that the majority of the wave is cannon fodder starships and soldiers, it's not a stretch.
Originally posted by -Pr-Creating miracles couldn't be any more vague. We've seen the un do on panel what claim I made. Saying the mm could do so without seeing it done on this scale is just opinion based while the un has already done so.
how is it not supportable? it creats miracles.look at what superman did by using it once. it has on panel evidence of being incredibly powerful, and when you consider that the majority of the wave is cannon fodder starships and soldiers, it's not a stretch.
Also, the un could recreate them.
We won't agree and either tactic from either side is banned because it takes away the fun of debating this.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Creating miracles couldn't be any more vague. We've seen the un do on panel what claim I made. Saying the mm could do so without seeing it done on this scale is just opinion based while the un has already done so.Also, the un could recreate them.
We won't agree and either tactic from either side is banned because it takes away the fun of debating this.
it's not vague when the MM has an actual of showing of large scale reality manip.
the BN's are going to tear through the majority of the wave, imo. it's the big three that are going to be the problem for me.
Originally posted by -Pr-Yes, but large scale reality manip isn't the same thing as seeing the un actually do so on panel.
it's not vague when the MM has an actual of showing of large scale reality manip.the BN's are going to tear through the majority of the wave, imo. it's the big three that are going to be the problem for me.
Originally posted by xJLxKingWhat?
The Miracle Machine recreated the MU.