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With CIS still in effect, then Thor should win the majority. Without it, Wally can win some via massive speedblitz, but Thor can take a beating and if he can get even one attack (especially energy or wind that sends Wally flying against a wall) to connect, he can follow up with just one strike, and The Flash becomes the Fzzzzt.
With CIS: Thor 7-8/10 ('cus Wally will screw something up)
Without CIS: Thor 6/10 (with Wally's wins being accomplished in seconds, and Thor's being absolute splatter-kills)
Originally posted by DarkOdinCIS is on
With Cis on i see Thor doing what he did with Hulk 1 time unleashing a huge ass storm.With No Cis Flash would take it to everyone under Skyfather IMO he is a monster with no CIS
also, how would a lightning storm effect Flash? to him, it would be as easy to avoid as columns of marble.
Originally posted by The Nuul
Flash is wayyyy to fast for Thor...he stomps.
While I can go with that train of thought, this creates some intellectual dissonance with much of what is posted on this forum: By that logic, both Superman and Wonder Woman should be able to speedblitz Thor for easy wins (while neither of them are quite as fast as Wally, they make up for it by being uberstrong) -- and I don't agree with that, conceptually, on several levels, as Thor has demonstrated that he can make for viable attacks/defenses against really fast attackers, and can endure massive punishment. Wally will connect with hundreds and thousands of blows (and powerful ones, at that) with Thor, but all Goldielocks has to do is make one of his sweeping attacks connect (which isn't saying it will automatically work, by any means) and the Flash will be off-kilter for at least a second or two; at that point, all Thor needs to do is strike him physically (if in range) or connect with one of his lightning attacks, and the battle is over. Is this a given? No. Not at all. Wally can win a number of battles against Thor. But conceptually, Thor should be able to make the wins agains him, especially if CIS is still on, 'cus Wally, as a character, is much more likely to make an error judgement in terms of combat than Thor is, in terms of executing a series of attacks.
For the sake of the arguement, I'll amend my CIS-off verdict down one grade, to a 5/10 split. But with CIS? Thor. No question. (Now, don't get me wrong: Thor will be hurting like a b!tch for it, at least for the battles where Wally gets some good attacks it...)
Originally posted by Starscream M
CIS is onalso, how would a lightning storm effect Flash? to him, it would be as easy to avoid as columns of marble.
Just to jump in on that: Lightning would be a better follow-up, or dazzle, attack than an initial sweep; while Wally is pounding on Thor, Thor wills a whirlwind of force to eminate from him -- once Wally is moved/slammed against a wall, what-have-you, Thor can follow through with an attack. For all of Wally's ability (which is very considerable, don't get me wrong), he doesn't possess massive endurance or durability -- he can be stunned quite easily by attacks that connect with him, in terms of the power level he's up against. It would only take one solid blow from Thor (via any of his many attack options) to connect with Wally for him to be out of the fight. Thor can withstand a lot of what Wally will be dishing out, and while many of Thor's attacks will fail, the post massive sweep attack will make the follow-up not that tricky.
Originally posted by WickedDynamite
With Wally a tie.With Barry...no friggin chance in Hell for Thor.
Now that one I can agree with. Barry is just too smart and clever -- he won't make certain mistakes that Wally might or would. In that scenario:
CIS on: Tie, more or less
CIS off: Thor is in major trouble and better pull some MAJOR god-tricks out of his ass to make this work. Barry 8-9/10
Originally posted by Starscream MMore the fact that Thor caused a huge flood can which he done and start frying the water. Heavy winds that would slow flash down or throw him around etc.
CIS is onalso, how would a lightning storm effect Flash? to him, it would be as easy to avoid as columns of marble.
Originally posted by xJLxKingNot really, I am not talking about Thor getting 10/10 wins by this tactic just 1 or 2 wins from it.
That a big IF.
With CIS on flash just doesn't stack up against Thor ,Superman etc....
He IMO Flash with no-CIS would stop unless someone has a counter to the speedforce "which must gus don't
I know it's non-canon but Thor is capable to create an Hurricane that covers the entire Planet. He has pretty awesome AE abilities. Wally would have to run for his life, though running is what he is best at. I dunno but Thor seems more then capable to build an AE defense against Wally.
Maybe a stalemate is more appropriate.
Originally posted by DarkOdin
Not really, I am not talking about Thor getting 10/10 wins by this tactic just 1 or 2 wins from it.With CIS on flash just doesn't stack up against Thor ,Superman etc....
He IMO Flash with no-CIS would stop unless someone has a counter to the speedforce "which must gus don't