Several facts you need to understand about X-Men:
1) They have impressive array of cloacking tech, hard-light projectors and other stealth stuff. They aren't going to be found easy
2) Bobby Drake can control heat currents and percieve them. If anything displaces air, he can find it because of disturbance in the heat movement it creates
3) With TP buff he can do it on a big scale
4) Emma is skilled enough to locate blank points in Astral plane and TP buffers
5) X-Men WILL find Tony, no matter what he does and will stay hidden while they do so
6) Not that it matters. Iceman can block chemical reactions, combustion in particular. Tony won't fly and he won'r be fast
And i didn't even got to using nannites and EM mines.
Originally posted by Survivor19
Several facts you need to understand about X-Men:
1) They have impressive array of cloacking tech, hard-light projectors and other stealth stuff. They aren't going to be found easy
2) Bobby Drake can control heat currents and percieve them. If anything displaces air, he can find it because of disturbance in the heat movement it creates
3) With TP buff he can do it on a big scale
4) Emma is skilled enough to locate blank points in Astral plane and TP buffers
5) X-Men WILL find Tony, no matter what he does and will stay hidden while they do so
6) Not that it matters. Iceman can block chemical reactions, combustion in particular. Tony won't fly and he won'r be fast
And i didn't even got to using nannites and EM mines.
Cool.....
Tony can hack that tech with Extremis.
He is immune to Telepathic attacks and any astral manipulation of his armour due to his complete integration to the armour.
Tony has mastered nano tech on a level far better than these guys.
He saved all of the Marvel heroes when his nanos discovered that they were all traped by the Brood.
Iceman is the only challenge here.....and fighting him is like fighting a god.
Being able to sense heat won't help Bobby when Tony can Super Speed anywhere around him with ease.
Nano machines wouldnt effect Bobby.
And this is not a hiding fight, for arguments sake fight take place in a open area. With 24 hr prep multiple armours could make this a Stalemate.
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Tony won't hack anything he can't connect to. And X-Men's tech would most likely hack him. )))
Tony may call himself master of nano-tech, but it was Beast who once purged Chandialr from Phalanx with his tech and some random power combo. Phalanx. Those TO guys, who Extremis has nothing on.
Open area, closed area - doesn't matter. My point that X-Men can hide with tech stands. My point thatt they can find Tony stands.
And i'm willing to bet they can intercept him andpin him down as well.
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I love the Xmen and normally I would be on their side.
But I am almost completely aware of what Tony can do with the armour while he was at Extremis level. So I feel I have to be the one guy who defends him in this match.
5 years ago Ironman would have messed up an X team.
But Bobby ....who has always been my favourite member is so powerful!
I must remind you the combined efforts of the FF4, Avengers and ( I think?) Xmen members couldn't stop Tony's five new armours from achieving there goals. Tony had to intercept all of them to take them down.
Ironman's nano machines were able to force SheHulk into her human state through a retracting needle in his hand.
When Ironman used it against WWH it was a dud. Due to one of the Initiative stealing it in another issue.
If it worked WWH would have been altered.....if it worked.
The Xmen lost their Shiar tech when Danger emerged. And Beast specialises as a geneticist but proficient with tech. And that aint enough against Extremis....and if the Xmen had any tech that connected them to each other he would hack that.
Could Tony's nano machines force Bobby into his human state if he prepared for it?
Plus Mutant Dampening tech is also thrown into the mix due to SHIELD and genoshins having access to it. 24 HR Prep.
For someone not in a know to those who are:
does bobby never get KO'd or dispersed long enough in comics for it to count as incap here? Genuine question, it seems silly that theres someone on the xmen who trucks through anything yet they have issues with some enemies...why didnt cyclops just have him hold up sentry on his own for example?
Originally posted by khazraNot lately, and if he does there are circumstances involved, like him forming inside a wall or something.
For someone not in a know to those who are:
does bobby never get KO'd or dispersed long enough in comics for it to count as incap here? Genuine question, it seems silly that theres someone on the xmen who trucks through anything yet they have issues with some enemies...why didnt cyclops just have him hold up sentry on his own for example?
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