Thor, Silver Surfer, WWH, Juggernaut Vs Cap Marvel, Supes, Doomsday, Diana

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
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Run from you? I just don't have the patience of ODG to deal with your stupidity. Remember how I use to argue with you for entire pages, trying to make you see reason? Yea, that's shit's never happening again. If your so dead set on me embarrassing you on some topic, challenge me to a battle zone, and we'll settle it there. By the way, when's that battle zone between you and Batdude happening?

I do disappear all the time. You see, I have an actual life outside of here and some times I leave the board because I'm just too damn lazy to respond to some posts, head over to say herochat, get into a debate with an idiot like Jelly, then come back here and do it all over again.

Anyways, I don't talk to cowards. You can't even answer a simple question.

Oh, the I have a life argument. I always liked that one.

Originally posted by Sasaraixx
And it is equally problematic to assume that bfr would work on her with the sandals.

And the rainbow only appeared in one scan. It is therefore impossible to conclude that it allowed her to transport to the other realms as well. There is not other element present in the various scans that would allow for the possibility that it was some other force that allowed her to transport between the realms.

I do agree that the scene is ambiguous, but it does give something to consider. And there is still the possibility that the lasso or aegis effect could protect her. There are too many question marks to assume that BFR would be a successful tactic against her.

No, it's really not.

We saw her use the rainbow bridge to get to Asgard. It's been showed (At least in Marvel.) that other pantheons have dimensional gateways that lead from Earth to their realms. Are we to assume the sandals were suddenly able to allow her to use dimensional travel when that's never been the case in the past, and it specifically showed us that she was in fact using a dimensional link?

Who said anything about another force being present that allowed her to transport between realms? My reasoning is that she simply used gateways to reach the other pantheons. You know, something that we were shown she was doing.

If the writer wanted that to scene to show dimension hopping capabilities, she would have shown her using dimension hopping abilities.

The Sandals when described, are stated to increase one's speed and grant one the power of flight. I'm not going to assume it possesses any other abilities when a perfectly and likely explanation exists.

How would the Aegis Effect and the lasso prevent battle field removal from Thor?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Stupidity? This is from the same guy who tried saying Thor was depowered against the Hulk in issue 440. You are so biased it's actually humorous. I will continue to prove you wrong young man.

Oh, the I have a life argument. I always liked that one.

That's because it was you know, stated that Thor was depowered when he fought the Hulk. I would have stuck with that argument but apparently Thor regained his powers half way through the fight.

Just so you know, I was flipping through some Avengers issue, an issue or so after the Hulk battle if I got my chronology right, and it was stated that Thor was still not up to his full power.

I do. How's your girlfriend by the way?

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
No, it's really not.

We saw her use the rainbow bridge to get to Asgard. It's been showed (At least in Marvel.) that other pantheons have dimensional gateways that lead from Earth to their realms. Are we to assume the sandals were suddenly able to allow her to use dimensional travel when that's never been the case in the past, and it specifically showed us that she was in fact using a dimensional link?

Who said anything about another force being present that allowed her to transport between realms? My reasoning is that she simply used gateways to reach the other pantheons. You know, something that we were shown she was doing.

If the writer wanted that to scene to show dimension hopping capabilities, she would have shown her using dimension hopping abilities.

The Sandals when described, are stated to increase one's speed and grant one the power of flight. I'm not going to assume it possesses any other abilities when a perfectly and likely explanation exists.

How would the Aegis Effect and the lasso prevent battle field removal from Thor?

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
That's because it was you know, stated that Thor was depowered when he fought the Hulk. I would have stuck with that argument but apparently Thor regained his powers half way through the fight.

Just so you know, I was flipping through some Avengers issue, an issue or so after the Hulk battle if I got my chronology right, and it was stated that Thor was still not up to his full power.

I do. How's your girlfriend by the way?

Sure, you do. I am not with her anymore.

Originally posted by quanchi112
It was obvious in the comic he regained his powers. It happened in the comic and it shows serious reading comprehension problems on your part since you needed it stated in another comic to get what the writer of ih 440 had in mind. The thing is you did get it but since it's Thor you convinced yourself there's no way he could have been fully powered in a berserker's rage and not beat the Hulk.

Sure, you do. I am not with her anymore.

Yea, it's not as if it was stated that Thor was nearly powerless a quarter into the fight by Wanda or anything....

I'd have had no problem if Thor was fully powered throughout the entire fight. He was going toe to toe and stalemating a Hulk that had lost it. Samson even states that the Hulk is angrier than his ever seen him or something similar. By the way, he only actually entered the Berserker Rage in the last panel of the fight.

Aww. What happened? Did he find your Thanos costume?

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Yea, it's not as if it was stated that Thor was nearly powerless a quarter into the fight by Wanda or anything....

I'd have had no problem if Thor was fully powered throughout the entire fight. He was going toe to toe and stalemating a Hulk that had lost it. Samson even states that the Hulk is angrier than his ever seen him or something similar. By the way, he only actually entered the Berserker Rage in the last panel of the fight.

Aww. What happened? Did he find your Thanos costume?

Both had lost it hence the beserker rage and both stated I will kill you. Hulk has been far angrier and far more powerful than this in any event and came to his senses long enough to think of Thor's safety whereas Thor wasn't.

It's a she not a he. It just ran it's course.

Originally posted by quanchi112
The comic showed us when Thor gets his powers back. He states it plain as day yet you didn't get it. That's called selective interpretation. You pretend the comic didn't clearly support that and start a wild goose chase pointing at other comics and other writers to explain what happened in ih 440.

Both had lost it hence the beserker rage and both stated I will kill you. Hulk has been far angrier and far more powerful than this in any event and came to his senses long enough to think of Thor's safety whereas Thor wasn't.

It's a she not a he. It just ran it's course.

Uhuh. I still standby the fact that Thor was depowered until half way through the fight (Thor's own words.). Just because he can fly again and shoot lightning, doesn't mean his back to full power. There's a reason the Widow mentioned that Thor was still not the Thunder God he was a handful of issues after the Hulk fight.

Thor's power level was going up and down throughout that entire time period. Thor's weakened level should be obvious enough when a punch from the Hulk and some cold water had a devastating result on Thor.

Thor hadn't entered the Berserker Rage until the near end of the fight.

😬 That's ridiculous.

And Hulk rarely goes so berserk he can only utter the words, I'll kill you. It's not the first time it's happened against Thor. Thor enrages him to the point that he completely losses it and nothing but his blood will satisfy him. It's the frustration of not being able to defeat him. That was definitely a first in their fights. In the past, it was Thor who worried about the safety of civilians. Even the safety of the Hulk.

Uhuh. Whatever you say.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Uhuh. I still standby the fact that Thor was depowered until half way through the fight (Thor's own words.). Just because he can fly again and shoot lightning, doesn't mean his back to full power. There's a reason the Widow mentioned that Thor was still not the Thunder God he was a handful of issues after the Hulk fight.

Thor's power level was going up and down throughout that entire time period. Thor's weakened level should be obvious enough when a punch from the Hulk and some cold water had a devastating result on Thor.

Thor hadn't entered the Berserker Rage until the near end of the fight.

😬 That's ridiculous.

And Hulk rarely goes so berserk he can only utter the words, I'll kill you. It's not the first time it's happened against Thor. Thor enrages him to the point that he completely losses it and nothing but his blood will satisfy him. It's the frustration of not being able to defeat him. That was definitely a first in their fights. In the past, it was Thor who worried about the safety of civilians. Even the safety of the Hulk.

Uhuh. Whatever you say.

What happened prior to or after is irrelevant for what the writer chose to do with his story. He gave Thor back his powers for an alll out battle with the Hulk and he failed to get the job done.

Hulk thought about Thor's safety so in spite of the battle he got himself out of it while Thor was lost into a rage so Hulk kinda showed up him here. He can fight Thor off while he lost it and still save Thor and come to his senses.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He wasn't he stated he got his powers back. I mean this shows how biased you are when it's actually been stated and further backed up by Thor's book. Thor can't best the Hulk even in beserker rage which is hilarious considering we've seen far greater showings from the Hulk than from this battle.

What happened prior to or after is irrelevant for what the writer chose to do with his story. He gave Thor back his powers for an alll out battle with the Hulk and he failed to get the job done.

Hulk thought about Thor's safety so in spite of the battle he got himself out of it while Thor was lost into a rage so Hulk kinda showed up him here. He can fight Thor off while he lost it and still save Thor and come to his senses.

Where did he stated that in #440. Post a scan or concede to being a liar.

Thor stated he got his powers in the middle of the fight with the Hulk. We never saw it happen, and it wouldn't make much sense, but whatever. Maye his referring to the Berserker Rage. Who knows.

I'm not even going to try and make sense out of whatever stupid logic your falling back on here.

Oh, so that's the game your playing eh?

Okay, next time someone uses the time Thanosi in Thor Vol. 2 as evidence for something against Thanos, don't be surprised when someone claims that it's irrelevant what Starlin decided to do for a later issue, as the writer intended that to be the real Thanos.

Thor's allowed to lose it once in a while. His always the one worrying about others safety.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Where did he stated that in #440. Post a scan or concede to being a liar.

Thor stated he got his powers in the middle of the fight with the Hulk. We never saw it happen, and it wouldn't make much sense, but whatever. Maye his referring to the Berserker Rage. Who knows.

I'm not even going to try and make sense out of whatever stupid logic your falling back on here.

Oh, so that's the game your playing eh?

Okay, next time someone uses the time Thanosi in Thor Vol. 2 as evidence for something against Thanos, don't be surprised when someone claims that it's irrelevant what Starlin decided to do for a later issue, as the writer intended that to be the real Thanos.

Thor's allowed to lose it once in a while. His always the one worrying about others safety.

A writer can retcon something but in the case of ih nothing was ever retconned and the writer's intentions were crystal clear.

Thor can't seem to get the better of the Hulk so I can see why he loses it.

What's BFR?