Originally posted by Mshinu
Wolvie scratches supes like he did to Thor
Colossus cuts him
Thor inflicts a serious, potentially fatal wound
Thor's skin is easier to pierce than Superman's. I don't believe Wolverine does more than irritates him.
Colossus has a shot at drawing blood.
Thor manages to plunge them deeper.
The only precedence for this is Doomsday's bone spikes, and how much damage they did to Superman. Otherwise it would take kryptonite or magic based weapons to pierce his skin.
Originally posted by roughriderHow about if its Juggernaut and he is allowed to use his Momentum?.. 😕
Thor's skin is easier to pierce than Superman's. I don't believe Wolverine does more than irritates him.Colossus has a shot at drawing blood.
Thor manages to plunge them deeper.
The only precedence for this is Doomsday's bone spikes, and how much damage they did to Superman. Otherwise it would take kryptonite or magic based weapons to pierce his skin.
Draws a tiny bit of blood but nothing at all serious.
Colossus with all his might should be able to plunge it deep into his chest or skull for a kill.
Thor stabbing supes would be more like a normal person stabbing another normal person with a super sharp knife. It's gonna get messy, think of that dude in bathroom during Scarface.
Originally posted by roughrider
The only precedence for this is Doomsday's bone spikes, and how much damage they did to Superman. Otherwise it would take kryptonite or magic based weapons to pierce his skin.
And the fact that supes gets hurt, damage, bleed from things that are not magical or k-nite related... just that...fact...
Originally posted by the ninjak
I've seen a vampire pierce Supes neck!
If you made a sword out of vampire teeth you can take Supes head off 😱
Vampire's fangs are *inherently* supernatural, so that is to be expected. (Similar to how The Cheetah's claws can cut Clark, especially when backed by superspeed.)
Wolverine: a scratch, at best. Logan doesn't have the strength or momentum capability to back adamantium's durabilty/harm potential.
Colossus: *Might* have the ability to to make a moderate wound, but it would take all of his strength.
Thor: Has the strength to back adamantium's potential damage ability -- Supes will be pretty hurt, possibly in a potentially lethal manner. Not a definite kill, as it won't do what, say, Mjolner would be capable of (as it doesn't have Mjolner's magical backing), but still pretty bad.
As far as the cross-over pic above, what might be being overlooked is that the beam is indicated as being able to cut through adamantium; supes tanks it with at best as superficial wound;comparitively you would need tremendous strength to back an adamantium weapon, as such, to penetrate Supes defenses/durability. Hence, Logan's out, Colossus is marginal, and Thor fits the bill, though not for a definite kill.
EDIT: Yikes. My edit ate words. Never edited mid-sentence before, and didn't realize it didn't bump, but removed and contracted, so my one sentence droped stuff: should have said "at best a superficial wound/easily shrugged-off pain."
Originally posted by chomperx9
i think it should be decided on the writter not the title if a book is cannon or not. theres alot of books that are cannon that dont make sense sometimes just like the non cannon books. it all depends on the writer
Now, *that* is true; contextually, that is why various characters have high and low showings. The cross-over pic could be interpreted as a high-showing for Supes, by some people, while others might consider it a standard showing. I am one of the former, contextually, but can see the arguement from both perspectives.