Thor Vs Colossus

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SoulDevourer M0DERAT0R

Originally posted by h1a8
Thor has been cut by swords (classic Thor) and injured by bullets. The original writers (Stan Lee) wrote Thor to not be bulletproof by having him block bullets. Colossus has been always been written as bulletproof. This says a lot.
ok for *classic* thor

but even then...what were those bullets made of? 😉 (those that pirced his skin)

Writer's intention >>> art shown
uh no art >>> written 😕 this comics not literature lol...comics = visual thing, u know 🙄

anyway Thor only said it was "annoyin welts" or somethin. guess it just tickle lol

Colossus-Big C Restricted

Originally posted by psycho gundam
not really, nukes have been filmed with super-high speed cameras, it's quantifiable.

the mushroom cloud was well formed before flash was complete, that's like a full 2-3 seconds minimum.

your forgetting he carried 500,000 people individualy to a place 100miles away in a split second.

snoopdogg Big Pimpin

I don't know how big the guns are on the blackbird but Colossus easily walked right through them iirc.

psycho gundam The Nightmare of Solomon

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
your forgetting he carried 500,000 people individualy to a place 100miles away in a split second.
not totally individually, and he had a few seconds to do it.

also, the flash only had to save the majority of them from the shockwave which travels far slower than the solar temperature flash (which would have insta-killed them if they were close enough).

h1a8 Senior Member

Originally posted by psycho gundam
not really, nukes have been filmed with super-high speed cameras, it's quantifiable.

the mushroom cloud was well formed before flash was complete, that's like a full 2-3 seconds minimum.

The radiation from nukes comes out at the speed of light. This is common knowledge.

h1a8 Senior Member

Originally posted by SoulDevourer
ok for *classic* thor

but even then...what were those bullets made of? 😉 (those that pirced his skin)

uh no art >>> written 😕 this comics not literature lol...comics = visual thing, u know 🙄

anyway Thor only said it was "annoyin welts" or somethin. guess it just tickle lol

Bullets were made of lead.

Uhm no!

written word>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>any art depiction. You can't change the writer's intentions.

Welts are sores (bad ones at that). Look it up.

Mindset Senior Member

How are welts bad sores?

SoulDevourer M0DERAT0R

Originally posted by h1a8
Bullets were made of lead.
those bullets (big ones iirc) cause classic Thor pain but dint pirce him

Uhm no!

written word>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>any art depiction. You can't change the writer's intentions.

so what about whats drawn on the panels? he dint intend that? drew it by accident? 😂

Welts are sores (bad ones at that). Look it up.
ok cos no visible sores on panel => tiny or no welts 😮‍💨

redninjas Restricted

Originally posted by KillAll
thor would win, and its still not even a garauntee that colossus is more durable with peircing attacks either...

so try something a little more productive next time, are you capable of that?

oh seriously just shut up fanboy if you think thor is more durable then colossus in peircing foce you are an idiot wolverine was able to cut his arm bozo

JakeTheBank Return of the King

...what?

tideoftime Senior Member

Originally posted by psycho gundam
not totally individually, and he had a few seconds to do it.

also, the flash only had to save the majority of them from the shockwave which travels far slower than the solar temperature flash (which would have insta-killed them if they were close enough).

Actually, Big-C is right: Wally moved them all in a fraction of a second, not seconds (plural); and while H1a8 can be annoying with his fact-flinging sometimes, he's also right -- the radiation travels much faster than the shockwave; once someone catches even a glimpse of the flash of a nuclear bomb within a horizon arc (about 10-14 miles, depending on terrain), it's already too late, as an already long-term fatal exposure of radiation has occured. Dying in the shockwave would actually be a mercy by comparison.

But back on topic: to reiterate -- Colossus is more resistant to piercing attacks than Thor. I won't venture to what degee, but there you go...

h1a8 Senior Member

Originally posted by Mindset
How are welts bad sores?
My definition of bad is something that hurts. Lashes from welts are very tender and can hurt a lot.

Originally posted by SoulDevourer
those bullets (big ones iirc) cause classic Thor pain but dint pirce him
They didn't pierce him completely but enough to cause welts, abrasions and lashes of his skin

so what about whats drawn on the panels? he dint intend that? drew it by accident? 😂
There's infinite reasons why art is drawn different than what is written. I'll name a few:
Something is too big to draw so they draw it smaller to fit the page (like planets vs. the size of humanoids). Something is too small so they don't bother with the little unnecessary detail as long as they are explained (a similar incident is when Thor slightly dented adamantium. It was stated but no dent was shown at all). Laziness on the artist part, forgetfulness on the artist part, etc.

ok cos no visible sores on panel => tiny or no welts 😮‍💨

Well bullet points are small, so the welts would be kind of small too. The point is that the bullets lashed or abrased his skin as he said (doesn't matter how small). This is penetration, not complete penetration but still penetration. My point was only to show that Colossus has better durability against piercing attacks than Thor. But clearly Thor has better general durability than Colossus.

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Originally posted by Kris Blaze
I completely 100% disagree.

I also don't see how in the world you figure that a sentinel blast would even come close to taking out old Colossus. Old being pre-class 100.

i never said it would kill him. just that he did a lot better against it in Astonishing than i would have expected old colossus to do.

redninjas Restricted

colossus is by far more durable to piercing force then thor hell thor got his arm cut by wolverine .... also i am sure colossus wouldnt go down from the osborn punch like thor did 🙂

JakeTheBank Return of the King
Originally posted by redninjas
colossus is by far more durable to piercing force then thor hell thor got his arm cut by wolverine .... also i am sure colossus wouldnt go down from the osborn punch like thor did 🙂

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Colossus-Big C Restricted

those are WAR heads

themadsurfer Senior Member
Originally posted by redninjas
colossus is by far more durable to piercing force then thor hell thor got his arm cut by wolverine .... also i am sure colossus wouldnt go down from the osborn punch like thor did 🙂

Yeah... that's one huge lie dude.
1) Wolverine sliced in the wrist area.
2)the next panel the arm is there and his wrists clothes are screwed(note that he isn't even holding his arm It's the motion of the punch that's why his fist is closed).
3)Wolverine dies before Thor lose his arm not hand.

themadsurfer Senior Member
Originally posted by h1a8

They didn't pierce him completely but enough to cause welts, abrasions and lashes of his skin There's infinite reasons why art is drawn different than what is written.

Seriously?? Those high caliber bullets bounced from his skin leaving welts which is different from slashes, since slashes can break the skin thus causing bleeding.
So the high caliber bullet from jetfighters bounced from his skin(that's already being bullet-proof of high calibers) and it didn't even cause him to bleed.
Now I suggest you go to Thor respect thread in comic vine "respect the mightiest avenger" and see how he is at the end of a fight between him and an army of mercenaries with .50 or more, and other guns.

h1a8 Senior Member

Originally posted by themadsurfer
Seriously?? Those high caliber bullets bounced from his skin leaving welts which is different from slashes, since slashes can break the skin thus causing bleeding.
So the high caliber bullet from jetfighters bounced from his skin(that's already being bullet-proof of high calibers) and it didn't even cause him to bleed.
Now I suggest you go to Thor respect thread in comic vine "respect the mightiest avenger" and see how he is at the end of a fight between him and an army of mercenaries with .50 or more, and other guns.
Colossus has always been bullet proof and cut proof (basically). Thor wasn't always bulletproof (later issues have him bulletproof on the lowest levels). So averaging things out Colossus is easily more durable to piercing attacks. Thor is more durable to blunt attacks though and has a much higher damage soak.

themadsurfer Senior Member
Originally posted by h1a8
Colossus has always been bullet proof and cut proof (basically). Thor wasn't always bulletproof (later issues have him bulletproof on the lowest levels). So averaging things out Colossus is easily more durable to piercing attacks. Thor is more durable to blunt attacks though and has a much higher damage soak.

Thor wasn't for some writers who though magical beings in dc are like those in Marvel. Anyway write now he is completely bullet proof from any caliber.
Please show me something Thor couldn't take that colossus can take it without bleeding(piercing obviously). If you show me proofs I stop debating write now.