the source vs lucifer morning

Started by Colossus-Big C2 pages

they bolded HE IGNORED IT that means the source is below him.

if Silver surfer flew past exitar can he "Ignore Exitar"?

Yes.

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
they bolded HE IGNORED IT that means the source is below him.

if Silver surfer flew past exitar can he "Ignore Exitar"?


At his peril but yes.

Originally posted by Galan007
This page has always intrigued me:
http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/6910/lucifer123.jpg

Granted nothing in that scan specifically mentions that Lucifer was more powerful than the Source. However, the fact(s) that he was able to A.) enter the Source itself on a whim, B.) ignore the Source entirely, and C.) utilize the Aleph without struggling in the least is something very few characters have ever done -- and something that no character has ever accomplished with such ease.

👆 not much else needs to be said...

Originally posted by Galan007
This page has always intrigued me:
http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/6910/lucifer123.jpg

Granted nothing in that scan specifically mentions that Lucifer was more powerful than the Source. However, the fact(s) that he was able to A.) enter the Source itself on a whim, B.) ignore the Source entirely, and C.) utilize the Aleph without struggling in the least is something very few characters have ever done -- and something that no character has ever accomplished with such ease.

👆 Even states he went pass the veil which implies that it is God or at least his will that created everything

I don't see Lucifer being above the Source in general. The Source is hinted at being an aspect of the Presence. It's also hinted at being the mind of the Primal Monitor which may also be the Presence.

If you rememer the Source Wall seperates the Multiverse from the infinite Overvoid, which is the mind of the Primal Monitor and also where the Monitor World exists.

When the 4th world was destroyed by the New God's war the Source Wall was also destroyed, exposing the Multiverse to the Overvoid itself.

Originally posted by Allankles
I don't see Lucifer being above the Source in general. The Source is hinted at being an aspect of the Presence. It's also hinted at being the mind of the Primal Monitor which may also be the Presence.

If you rememer the Source Wall seperates the Multiverse from the infinite Overvoid, which is the mind of the Primal Monitor and also where the Monitor World exists.

When the 4th world was destroyed by the New God's war the Source Wall was also destroyed, exposing the Multiverse to the Overvoid itself.


So if anything the Source Wall is like the Primal Monitor's Corpus Colostrum, keeping the two hemispheres of His mind separate.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
So if anything the Source Wall is like the Primal Monitor's Corpus Colostrum, keeping the two hemispheres of His mind separate.

No, the Source wall keep other universe separate from each other

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
they bolded HE IGNORED IT that means the source is below him.

if Silver surfer flew past exitar can he "Ignore Exitar"?

I'm sure Exitar would ignore him so if he ignored Exitar then nothing would happen.

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
they bolded HE IGNORED IT that means the source is below him.

if Silver surfer flew past exitar can he "Ignore Exitar"?

Surfer ignoring anything is not in his powerset.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
So if anything the Source Wall is like the Primal Monitor's Corpus Colostrum, keeping the two hemispheres of His mind separate.

Something like that. It would also give a good retconned reason for why the Prometheans and others were imprisoned on the wall.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
No, the Source wall keep other universe separate from each other

The Orrery seperates the individual universes within the Multiverse. The Source Wall seperates the Multiverse from the Overvoid/Mind of the Monitor.

It's explained somewhere in FC, Novu's woman mentions the destruction of the Source wall and the exposure of the Multiverse.

Originally posted by Allankles
The Orrery seperates the individual universes within the Multiverse. The Source Wall seperates the Multiverse from the Overvoid/Mind of the Monitor.

It's explained somewhere in FC, Novu's woman mentions the destruction of the Source wall and the exposure of the Multiverse.

I don't think the Source Wall was ever mentioned in FC>

Lucifer ignoring The Source is insufficient proof to warrant that his power is greater than The Source's.

It was explicitly stated that he ignored The Source because he was looking for something else, The Aleph.

The scene does, however, show that Lucifer is not a part of The Source.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
I don't think the Source Wall was ever mentioned in FC>

I think it's mentioned somewhere in the director's cut, or maybe an interview. Anyways in FC The Source is God/the Presence/The Overvoid.

Lucifer is below the Source. I can probably find the interwiew or director's cut somewhere if you want to see it. But The Source was confirmed as being the Overvoid/God.