Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Hell yes to all of those Nihilist mentioned. Strange could wreck them with magics, Prime...lol, I don't think much needs to be said, and Thanos would beat the shit out of them as well.
Prime did nothing impressive to make me think he'll run through them and I have read everything about Prime. Guardian Amp, thats a different story.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Savage Hulk. Thor damn near killed him.
Ok, lets take everything into consideration that rulk did BEFORE almost being dropped by Thor.
First he fought A-Bomb and some harpees, then hulk interviened.
He fights Hulk and then chokes him to sleep. Hulk wakes up and and he fight hulk yet again, then thor shows up. He beat Thors a**, take a hammer hit to the face and dump thor on the moon. He then jumps from the moon and hits the earth face first.
As soon as he get out of the crater, hulk is waiting for him and they fight yet again. Thor then jump in and then Rulk is losing.
All of this happens without a one drop of rest or sleep or time to even get himself together.
You get the point.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
I agree, but pretty much any character that brings more to the table than pure strength, durability, and healing, would benefit extremely well. Fliers with sufficient speed, in particular.
You see, thats the problem, speed. People tend to take the word speed out of context. Making a character do things that he has as of yet to do on panel like punch someone a thousand times before he can react or basically just be untouchable when all in all, there is nothing showing that this character is that fast.
Originally posted by carver9
Ok, lets take everything into consideration that rulk did BEFORE almost being dropped by Thor.First he fought A-Bomb and some harpees, then hulk interviened.
He fights Hulk and then chokes him to sleep. Hulk wakes up and and he fight hulk yet again, then thor shows up. He beat Thors a**, take a hammer hit to the face and dump thor on the moon. He then jumps from the moon and hits the earth face first.
As soon as he get out of the crater, hulk is waiting for him and they fight yet again. Thor then jump in and then Rulk is losing.
All of this happens without a one drop of rest or sleep or time to even get himself together.
You get the point.
And? Most of that = PIS.
And why would the Marvels try to get into a prolonged h2h battle with the Hulks when, by forum rules, they know that's what they are all about PLUS have godly wisdom on their side? Let's face it, most people fight on Hulk's terms when they fight him at all, and it's not a big surprise when he beats them or comes close to it.
Originally posted by carver9
You see, thats the problem, speed. People tend to take the word speed out of context. Making a character do things that he has as of yet to do on panel like punch someone a thousand times before he can react or basically just be untouchable when all in all, there is nothing showing that this character is that fast.
I'm not saying that they OMGWTFCOMBOTOKOSPEEDBLITZ the Hulks. But a flier who can move at supersonic and beyond speeds with strength and durability already higher than that of a "default" Hulk has a lot more options than Hulk.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
And? Most of that = PIS.And why would the Marvels try to get into a prolonged h2h battle with the Hulks when, by forum rules, they know that's what they are all about PLUS have godly wisdom on their side? Let's face it, most people fight on Hulk's terms when they fight him at all, and it's not a big surprise when he beats them or comes close to it.
What terms are the marvels fighting at that would give them the majority against hulk. The marvels are physical characters. They are not as versatile as Thor or Surfer.
Originally posted by Nihilist
Thats because you totally overrate any version of the Hulk and underrate ANY DC character.
Not overrate, I just want to see the said feats that Prime did without the suit besides punching barriers, etc...
Are you talking about taking out the teen titans or stalemating an inexperience ION or fighting Superboy?
What feats are you talking about?
Originally posted by carver9
What terms are the marvels fighting at that would give them the majority against hulk. The marvels are physical characters. They are not as versatile as Thor or Surfer.
They set the terms of engagements here. They could very easily stay in the air and divebomb one Hulk, and with their combined efforts, forcibily move him away from the others. They also have more experience working with another and are both smarter than the other team. Sure, they don't have x-ray vision or freeze breath or weather manipulation, but they still can do more than any of the Hulk's can.