Colossus Vs Storm

She can flashfreeze and heat him up repeatedly until his body cracks, IIRC there was a fight in which pyro and avalanche try to do it with liquid nitrogen and pyrokinesis and I think it was stated that it would work.

Storm also claimed a steel spike accelerated by a hurricane could shatter frost's diamond form.

She coul also dump him in the ocean and let him sink, would that work? Can he float? If he cant float but can swim because of his strengh, she could manipualte the currents to take him to the floor of the ocean. Even if he swims up, it would take a very long time and should count as defeat by incapacitation, although it migh be seen as bfr.

Originally posted by 753
She can flashfreeze and heat him up repeatedly until his body cracks, IIRC there was a fight in which pyro and avalanche try to do it with liquid nitrogen and pyrokinesis and I think it was stated that it would work.

Storm also claimed a steel spike accelerated by a hurricane could shatter frost's diamond form.

She coul also dump him in the ocean and let him sink, would that work? Can he float? If he cant float but can swim because of his strengh, she could manipualte the currents to take him to the floor of the ocean. Even if he swims up, it would take a very long time and should count as defeat by incapacitation, although it migh be seen as bfr.

Why does everyone hate Russia and their citizens?

He is immune to cold and heat.

What does what Storm said to Frost have to do with Colossus? Here's a little clue, Colossus is more durable than diamond form, stronger too.

There's no BFR so that wouldn't work here at all

The expansion and sudden contraction of metal will cause it to crack and deform, I'll try to find the issue. I don't think he is completely immune to extreme temperatures either just resilient to them.

Even if he is more durable than diamond, he certainly has a breaking point. Maybe storm can't put enough force behind a steel spike to do it but he is not impenetrable.

Dumping him underwater migh be seen as incapacitation not bfr depending on the circumstances. She might, for instance, drop him in the water and freeze massive amounts of it arround him, until he is trapped in a huge iceberg from which it will take a really long time to break free, if he can do it at all. They would both still be in the battlefield that way.

It's not impossible for her to defeat him even if she cant kill him.

What about the very detailed strategy guide of throwing something at Storm?

Storm tires out while throwing shit at Colossus. Colossus waits and shes dead after or continues to throw shit at her then shes dead after. She will tire while Colossus doesnt. He will win after a long boring fight.

Originally posted by Blanket
What about the very detailed strategy guide of throwing something at Storm?

Wind barrier? Maybe desintegrate it with lightning. Storm's main problem here is her stamina that can't match his, so if she can't put him down soon enough she will eventually become exhausted and have to flee or be KOed by him.

Originally posted by 753
Wind barrier? Maybe desintegrate it with lightning. Storm's main problem here is her stamina that can't match his, so if she can't put him down soon enough she will eventually become exhausted and have to flee or be KOed by him.

Ya, blasting a 'tiny' object moving extremely fast is well within Storm's reaction time. And if he decides to throw more than one, she'd zap that too.

Originally posted by 753
The expansion and sudden contraction of metal will cause it to crack and deform, I'll try to find the issue. I don't think he is completely immune to extreme temperatures either just resilient to them.

Even if he is more durable than diamond, he certainly has a breaking point. Maybe storm can't put enough force behind a steel spike to do it but he is not impenetrable.

Dumping him underwater migh be seen as incapacitation not bfr depending on the circumstances. She might, for instance, drop him in the water and freeze massive amounts of it arround him, until he is trapped in a huge iceberg from which it will take a really long time to break free, if he can do it at all. They would both still be in the battlefield that way.

It's not impossible for her to defeat him even if she cant kill him.

Can you show me Colossus's breaking point? Your scientific take on metal would apply if Colossus was made of human/synthetic steel but he's made of an unknown form of organic steel so you have no proof that it applies to the same laws.

In this fight against Storm Colossus is impenetrable.

The fight does not take place around water so you can stop with this theory.

Originally posted by Blanket
What about the very detailed strategy guide of throwing something at Storm?

That's a grade A tactic developed by Spetsnaz. He's doesn't need to pull out the big guns for her black ass.

Originally posted by Blanket
A wind barrier stops a rock whipped at her by a class big pasty russian?

Ya, blasting a 'tiny' rock moving extremely fast is well within Storm's reaction time. And if he decides to throw more than one, she'd zap that too. She would zap a rock. 😐

A hurricane barrier could stop them and yes she can use use lightning to vaporize almost anything that could hit her. Lightning's temperature is about the same as that of surface of the sun and it travels at 20% the speed of light. They carry on average 500 MJ of energy, a single MJ is the energy a ton moving at 160km/h. This is just a single average lightning though, she can use as many as powerfull as she pleases. And since the average human reaction time is 0.2 seconds and the rules say they start the batlle at 500m from each other i think she can react in time to block, destroy or just dodge the big rocks thrown at her. His best hope for victory is to wait and take punishment until she gets too tired to throw him arround.

There's no punishment she could force on him.

It's hard for her to seriously hurt him, but she can manhandle him across the battlefield which is what i was refering to as punishment.

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Can you show me Colossus's breaking point? Your scientific take on metal would apply if Colossus was made of human/synthetic steel but he's made of an unknown form of organic steel so you have no proof that it applies to the same laws.

In this fight against Storm Colossus is impenetrable.

The fight does not take place around water so you can stop with this theory.

It was never done but IIRC it was stated it would work, ill try to find the issue.

Fine, for all intents and purposes she cant penetrate him.

How do you know they're not fighting close to water? Their current base is an artificial island in the middle of the ocean. Even if they were fighting in a landlocked desert she could still carry him to to the sea or a large enough river on wind currents.

Originally posted by 753
It was never done but IIRC it was stated it would work, ill try to find the issue.

Fine, for all intents and purposes she cant penetrate him.

How do you know they're not fighting close to water? Their current base is an artificial island in the middle of the ocean. Even if they were fighting in a landlocked desert she could still carry him to to the sea or a large enough river on wind currents.

Two idiots thinking something will work does not equal proof.

How do I know? Well I know you read KMC's rules on the battle and whatnot so you yourself should know that there is a default battlefield when one is not given and there is no water in that default battlefield or sand.

Storm freezes him in a block of ice ftw.

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Two idiots thinking something will work does not equal proof.

How do I know? Well I know you read KMC's rules on the battle and whatnot so you yourself should know that there is a default battlefield when one is not given and there is no water in that default battlefield or sand.

I did read the rules and the battlefield just doesn't have any description. So the rules don't actually exclude the possibilities of the terrain, there's no reason to assume that there are rocks for him to throw at her either. She can still carry him to water though, provided they are fighting on earth, which the rules don't specify either. And yes, that is a good idea, she can bury him under sand as well, it's just easier to find lots of water as the planet is mostly covered by it.

Originally posted by 753
I did read the rules and the battlefield just doesn't have any description. So the rules don't actually exclude the possibilities of the terrain, there's no reason to assume that there are rocks for him to throw at her either. She can still carry him to water though, provided they are fighting on earth, which the rules don't specify either. And yes, that is a good idea, she can bury him under sand as well, it's just easier to find lots of water as the planet is mostly covered by it.

Don't bother once he gets on a roll he don't stop.

how she just throws him into a whirl wind until he pass out from being too dizzy....

he won't pass out from dizziness.

Originally posted by DarkOdin
Don't bother once he gets on a roll he don't stop.

how she just throws him into a whirl wind until he pass out from being too dizzy....

Are you upset because I proved all of your strategies to beating him false?

Originally posted by 753
I did read the rules and the battlefield just doesn't have any description. So the rules don't actually exclude the possibilities of the terrain, there's no reason to assume that there are rocks for him to throw at her either. She can still carry him to water though, provided they are fighting on earth, which the rules don't specify either. And yes, that is a good idea, she can bury him under sand as well, it's just easier to find lots of water as the planet is mostly covered by it.

If it helps I'll ask a Mod about the default battlefield terrain although I doubt there would be things like sand and water seeing as that would give an advantage to some and a disadvantage to others when it's supposed to be a default and neutral setting. If the battlefield doesn't have water near it then she can't use water unless it's raining or she moves an ocean or sea or something silly like that. She can't take him to a body of water if it's outside the battlefield.

Originally posted by 753

Fine, for all intents and purposes she cant penetrate him.

Eventually Storm