Superman Vs Loki

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Loki is used to getting into melee confrontations with Thor (who is his vast superior). Superman going for the direct KO/kill isn't going to work against a smarter opponent who has way more guile as well.

and in direct melee thor has kicked his arse so why wouldn't it work for kal exactly? again, what is loki going to do to put kal down for good? blasts? no chance. he's not transmuting him (he needed surtur's power to change thor and when thor got back to asgard and was po'd he smacked loki around like a child). illusions could buy him time, animating stuff could buy, going astral/intangible could buy him time, but what will he do exactly that will ko supes? people say this is a bad match for kal, but frankly, this type of 1on1 physical confrontation is also very bad for loki. i'll gladly admit to being wrong in this case if someone wants to make a REAL case for loki somewhere. 😬

and loki smarter than clark? i'd doubt it. more clever? perhaps, but with clark's experience, speed and strength, it will take more than cleverness.

I like that Apoc defeats Loki, but loses to Superman in a thread. But Loki loses to Apoc, but beats Superman in a thread.

Apoc haters need to stop.

and Loki wins this.

Originally posted by leonidas
and in direct melee thor has kicked his arse so why wouldn't it work for kal exactly? again, what is loki going to do to put kal down for good? blasts? no chance. he's not transmuting him (he needed surtur's power to change thor and when thor got back to asgard and was po'd he smacked loki around like a child). illusions could buy him time, animating stuff could buy, going astral/intangible could buy him time, but what will he do exactly that will ko supes? people say this is a bad match for kal, but frankly, this type of 1on1 physical confrontation is also very bad for loki. i'll gladly admit to being wrong in this case if someone wants to make a REAL case for loki somewhere. 😬

and loki smarter than clark? i'd doubt it. more clever? perhaps, but with clark's experience, speed and strength, it will take more than cleverness.

It doesn't hurt that Thor is already highly resistant to magic as well as equipped with a weapon bordering on plot device when it comes to his stepbrother and foiling his schemes. Loki has the firepower to put down Superman. He's a top tier sorcerer, and Superman has had trouble with lesser magical beings.

Loki was fine after getting his head removed, right?

I don't see what punches are going to do.

how about summoning magic chains and other forms of incapacitating supes.. loki can summon a magic sword just as easily while intangible.

supes isnt going to survive a magic sword cut while he is held in place by magic chains

loki can just blast him with mystic bolts

Loki has also taken blows from the likes of Thor and the Destroyer Armor and was only staggered momentarily. I don't see what Superman is going to do against an opponent who can literally just avoid/evade any and everything Superman can do.

Originally posted by Mindset
Loki was fine after getting his head removed, right?

I don't see what punches are going to do.

Originally posted by Mindset
No, I would really like an answer, was I right?

Yes.

http://img359.imageshack.us/i/thor34422uz1.jpg/

also didnt superman take a physical beating from atlas due for the sole reason he was a magical being?

if Loki is the god of mischief his physical make up is also magic and he actually can control his magic.

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
also didnt superman take a physical beating from atlas due for the sole reason he was a magical being?

if Loki is the god of mischief his physical make up is also magic and he actually can control his magic.

The thing is, even in a one-on-one fight, why would Loki bother fighting Superman in physical terms? He can phase, use telepathy, blast him with magic which WILL effect Superman, can radiate radiation, summon magical weapons, shapeshift, etc.

Hell, he can even Force Choke.

Originally posted by Mindset
No, I would really like an answer, was I right?

his head is laughing as he's laying it onto the stump the other time

Loki can discharge blasts of magical energy which can stagger the Thor Corps, all beings resistant to magic or wielding weapons which can counter effect it. To say that Loki's blasts won't phase Superman is a bit much, imo.

superman still wins, let's not kid ourselves.

superman ain't stomping him though, loki will try to coerce him to let up and it will give him opportunities to hit supes with strong magics.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
superman still wins, let's not kid ourselves.

superman ain't stomping him though, loki will try to coerce him to let up and it will give him opportunities to hit supes with strong magics.

If he does win, it's not a majority, imo. Not against a guy who can just turn him into snow.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
superman still wins

Originally posted by psycho gundam
superman still wins, let's not kid ourselves.

superman ain't stomping him though, loki will try to coerce him to let up and it will give him opportunities to hit supes with strong magics.

😬

yes, lets not kid ourselves here... a God of Magic vs a guy who is susceptible to magic

superman has battled and defeated uber magic in the past so his weakness to magic is often overrated.

loki's blasts WOULD hurt, no doubt, but kal could take them AND they have to hit him first. a band of frost giants kicked loki's a$$ physically! the idea that he can't be beat down physically is entirely wrong. he can try and summon his sword but again, he needs to hit with it. the idea that he's a 'god of magic' is a tired argument. balder is the 'god of light'. his body is magic and he's an uber warrior. is he beating superman too? darkseid is the god of apokolips yet a lot of good that's done him. loki has never had a battle against someone like superman. loki could take some, but supes gets the solid majority imo.

Originally posted by leonidas
superman has battled and defeated uber magic in the past so his weakness to magic is often overrated.

loki's blasts WOULD hurt, no doubt, but kal could take them AND they have to hit him first. a band of frost giants kicked loki's a$$ physically! the idea that he can't be beat down physically is entirely wrong. he can try and summon his sword but again, he needs to hit with it. the idea that he's a 'god of magic' is a tired argument. balder is the 'god of light'. his body is magic and he's an uber warrior. is he beating superman too? darkseid is the god of apokolips yet a lot of good that's done him. loki has never had a battle against someone like superman. loki could take some, but supes gets the solid majority imo.

I think people hear magic and instantly assumes Supes loses

Loki is Kryptonite in this scenario.

Loki can KO Superman. His power is at times is shown pretty high (KO'ing Beta, hurting Surtur, etc). He can react to a blitz it seems as well.

I don't see him winning though. He's got his ass kicked before physically, he'll get his ass kicked again.

CIS off though, with the whole 'Bor snow, intangible, etc' though would win. The Bor snow seems weird though.