Originally posted by Digi
Where are you getting your info? Handbooks? They're notoriously out of synch with actual comic appearances. It's not just the gods that suffer. In any case, it's better to ignore what they're "supposed" to be and just read the comics...and that goes for any character.
Nah, Digi, he's referencing Greek myths.
Originally posted by Cartesian Doubt
For any of these measurements to be TRUE, the writers would actually have to CARE about the Marvel handbook - They DON'T. Some writers will make reference to it as an Ironic piece of humor, a kind of 4th wall wink at the reader to demonstrate their acknowledgment of the Hand books. Apart from this occasional bit of humor the HANDBOOKS have no influence upon the writers.
There isn't some kind of realism meta literature LAW, that restricts Ares to lifting 70 tons, or the Thing to 85tons. They are as strong as the writer thinks they are. The Class ratings only acts as guide to how strong the character is comparable to others. I.e. some one who is in class 70, is not going to be as strong as someone who is class 85, etc. Its like the class of Indie music; No one goes "Well because its an Indie record it must sound like Oasis... thats bullshit. The grouping of Indie, means the song shares certain traits with other records in the same class. It does not mean they share the same quantifiable properties.The character can lift as much as they want depending on the writers interpretation !!!! Please get this into your head before u go around spouting figures like 210 tons. That Figure is meaningless. When I was a lot younger it used to really piss me off people coming up with figures like that - I'll admit i was being juvenile, actually caring about how much characters can lift, but there are those who care- and you are feeding them with credulous information !!!!!!!!!
Exactly. Character "strength" and power are as crazy or as limited as the story and the writer requires. Hercules can throw down with the Sentry in his book, and win, and then the Sentry can be presented as a threat to all of existence or something.... it's just how comics work. Story does (and should) trump what "we" think of a character's exact powers. That doesn't mean the Punisher should be fighting Galactus or anything. That'd be a terrible story. But if Superman needs to be able to hold off the Anti-Monitor for a while, and it's a cool story, then, well, that's how it works.
Originally posted by kbclassof09
Hey man thanks for that comic scan where do you guys find these scans are they free?
This scan is free as it's from a preview for the upcoming Hercules released next wednesday
http://comicbookresources.com/?page=preview&id=4440&disp=table