Originally posted by -Pr-Well that's argueble IMO cause Supes was matter manipulated several times before like I've heard here, so with this powerset he could enter his "mind"/brain via manipulation and not the ordinary "telepath mindraping" way.
It still would involve reading his thought processes, though.
Of course the whole strategy is argueble because Sentry is an idiot 🙂
There is nothing to say that sentry fires energy blasts composed of solar energy...
Having the power of a thousand or a million suns... Is hyperbole...
Please provide a single scan arhat states the blast fired is solar radiation waves of the frequency that superman uses to gain power...
Silver surfer collects energy from stars which our sun is a star
that doesn't mean his blasts would heal up superman...
Originally posted by supremthor
when did he lose T-Vo power? but Sentry still aint warping Superman not when he resists and reverses reality warping.http://img296.imageshack.us/i/adventuresofsuperman616jm4.jpg/
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Strengthwise Superman is Sentrys superior. Sentry hasn't shown anything close to MMs matter manipulation. That he beat him on his own turf was due to his unique nature, Sentry still has to show that he can matter manipulate beings on supes level. And no MM is an exception, unstable and himself an master of the art.
T-Vo is also =/= psionics... an Superman still has it.
Sentry is a beast if he fights energy based beings, but physical opponents seem to be his weakness, Hercules, Blue Marvel, WWH, Thor and Superman is rather physical 😉.
Originally posted by supremthor
okay my turn, superman has has ripped the arms of darksied in a fight, has withstood supernovas the millions of times the size of our solar system, his heat vision has done everything from repairing rift in reality to warming up a whole planet to taking out an army of doomsday clones, has held Black Holes in his Palm etc. I m just saying Sentry isn't that special when compared to people of his class, hell if not holding back ether thor or Surfer can take him. But they wont cuss they always hold back, and current sentry isn't holding back thats why he looks so beast.
Everything you named is physical strength that Sentry have and when did Supes ever rip the arms off of darkseid? Show me the supernova feat because I think you are talking about the one where he was flying in space and outraced the blast or you might be talking about the blast where he was hit with the shockwaves.
Its still heat vision and Sentry have that. Are you talking about the same doomsday clones that batman took out with an ax. Supes held a miniature black hole and Sentry held a cosmic cube in his hands.
I agree, Surfer or Thor probably could take him but you also have to remember, Surfer and Thor is outright more powerful than Supes.
Originally posted by Batman-Prime
👆Strengthwise Superman is Sentrys superior. Sentry hasn't shown anything close to MMs matter manipulation. That he beat him on his own turf was due to his unique nature, Sentry still has to show that he can matter manipulate beings on supes level. And no MM is an exception, unstable and himself an master of the art.
T-Vo is also =/= psionics... an Superman still has it.
Sentry is a beast if he fights energy based beings, but physical opponents seem to be his weakness, Hercules, Blue Marvel, WWH, Thor and Superman is rather physical 😉.
While he has fought genis, Stalemated WWH who strength wise is>>Superman, treated terrax and absorbing man like a chump and fought the collective along with stalemating Blue marvel who has carried around a chunk or rock the size of arkansas.
Lets not even start naming who each have been defeated by physically because with both, we can go on for days.
Originally posted by carver9
Max lord did it and he's as low of a telepath as you can get. He's no where close to Professor X or Jean grey in the telepathic area.Not even 1% of their abilities.
it also took him years, which you seem to have forgotten.
superman has more feats of doing well against telepaths than being beaten by them. on panel too.
Originally posted by carver9
While he has fought genis, Stalemated WWH who strength wise is>>Superman, treated terrax and absorbing man like a chump and fought the collective along with stalemating Blue marvel who has carried around a chunk or rock the size of arkansas.Lets not even start naming who each have been defeated by physically because with both, we can go on for days.
genis? so?
iyo that wwh > superman.
Originally posted by carver9
While he has fought genis, Stalemated WWH who strength wise is>>Superman, treated terrax and absorbing man like a chump and fought the collective along with stalemating Blue marvel who has carried around a chunk or rock the size of arkansas.Lets not even start naming who each have been defeated by physically because with both, we can go on for days.
No Superman > WWH.
But anyway, Carver you, as an avid Superman comics collector and reader, surely know the physical powerful beast Superman has defeated and you know his best Strength and durability feats.
Sentry is still to young and has still not nearly enough high end feats, like superman for example, to be a physical contest for Supes. Though i give you that, he can handle energy using enemies almost better as Supes.
As for the low feats. Sentry in his short career has collected far more physical low feats then Supes in all this years (means in "%" when you compare how many comics they appear in).
Originally posted by -Pr-
it also took him years, which you seem to have forgotten.superman has more feats of doing well against telepaths than being beaten by them. on panel too.
genis? so?
iyo that wwh > superman.
Of course its going to take him years, he's a low level but that feat alone proves that people like Martian Manhunter, Professor, and Emma (along with Sentry, who has whipped the entire earth clean of their memories of him) have the power to impact Supermans mind.
You must dont know who Genis is? And it was stated during that fight that Sentry was pulling power from everywhere and everything.
I agree, its my opinion about WWh. I'm not going to try to convince you so forget that I brought it up.
Originally posted by Batman-Prime
No Superman > WWH.
But anyway, Carver you, as an avid Superman comics collector and reader, surely know the physical powerful beast Superman has defeated and you know his best Strength and durability feats.
Sentry is still to young and has still not nearly enough high end feats, like superman for example, to be a physical contest for Supes. Though i give you that, he can handle energy using enemies almost better as Supes.As for the low feats. Sentry in his short career has collected far more physical low feats then Supes in all this years (means in "%" when you compare how many comics they appear in).
No, WWH>Superman and I have thousands of reasons on why I think this.
I dont collect comics, I work at a comic book store and read as much as I can for free. I agree, Superman is powerful as hell, Wonder Woman is powerful as hell, Gladiator is powerful as hell and I still think Sentry would curb stomp them.
I disagree with the low end feats, I think its about equal but when you factor in the times Sentry is trying, his feats are much more impressive.
Originally posted by carver9
Of course its going to take him years, he's a low level but that feat alone proves that people like Martian Manhunter, Professor, and Emma (along with Sentry, who has whipped the entire earth clean of their memories of him) have the power to impact Supermans mind.You must dont know who Genis is? And it was stated during that fight that Sentry was pulling power from everywhere and everything.
I agree, its my opinion about WWh. I'm not going to try to convince you so forget that I brought it up.
not really. he took years, and even after all that time, it took an insane toll on his body to control him. j'onn has tried, and failed.
i do know who genis is. i just don't think he's THAT impressive in terms of heralds.
Originally posted by -Pr-
not really. he took years, and even after all that time, it took an insane toll on his body to control him. j'onn has tried, and failed.i do know who genis is. i just don't think he's THAT impressive in terms of heralds.
People have tried and failed against Wolverine including Jean grey but that still doesnt change the fact that Sentry whiped his mind clean.
Genis>>any herald.
Originally posted by carver9
No, WWH>Superman and I have thousands of reasons on why I think this.I dont collect comics, I work at a comic book store and read as much as I can for free. I agree, Superman is powerful as hell, Wonder Woman is powerful as hell, Gladiator is powerful as hell and I still think Sentry would curb stomp them.
I disagree with the low end feats, I think its about equal but when you factor in the times Sentry is trying, his feats are much more impressive.
No Superman > WWH. Name 100, thousand are to much, 100 will be enough to convice me.
Then you aren't reading the comics properly or you read the wrong one, or you just see the low feats. 😖hrug:
Superman isn't trying as hard as sentry, he isnt a killer though. But reread every crisis in the DC Universe and you will see what's Supes best if he really tries. There are few instances where Supes doesn't play a major role.
Originally posted by carver9
People have tried and failed against Wolverine including Jean grey but that still doesnt change the fact that Sentry whiped his mind clean.Genis>>any herald.
that's not really an accurate comparison. superman's resistance isn't based on special blocks or anything like that. it's pure willpower. telepaths do badly against superman. it's happened enough in comics to be common knowledge by now.
insane genis? maybe. normal genis? not a chance.
Originally posted by Batman-Prime
No Superman > WWH. Name 100, thousand are to much, 100 will be enough to convice me.Then you aren't reading the comics properly or you read the wrong one, or you just see the low feats. 😖hrug:
Superman isn't trying as hard as sentry, he isnt a killer though. But reread every crisis in the DC Universe and you will see what's Supes best if he really tries. There are few instances where Supes doesn't play a major role.
I'll show you why wwh is>Superman.
I'm not reading anything wrong. I have my reasons on why I think Sentry could physically take down Sentry.
So Supes wasnt trying with Titus, Despero, Konvikt, Shaggy Man, the General, doctor poloris, etc..... he's trying, its just some people that are just to powerful physically for him or overall for him to stop.
I know of Supermans best just like I know of Sentrys best and Sentrys best is much more impressive.
Originally posted by -Pr-
that's not really an accurate comparison. superman's resistance isn't based on special blocks or anything like that. it's pure willpower. telepaths do badly against superman. it's happened enough in comics to be common knowledge by now.insane genis? maybe. normal genis? not a chance.
Genis-vell is above high herald and I could post scans proving this.
Originally posted by supremthorOk first off Batman was powerful enough to attack those fodder clones, when did Superman ever rip darkseid's arms off?
okay my turn, superman has has ripped the arms of darksied in a fight, has withstood supernovas the millions of times the size of our solar system, his heat vision has done everything from repairing rift in reality to warming up a whole planet to taking out an army of doomsday clones, has held Black Holes in his Palm etc. I m just saying Sentry isn't that special when compared to people of his class, hell if not holding back ether thor or Surfer can take him. But they wont cuss they always hold back, and current sentry isn't holding back thats why he looks so beast.
Glads has withstood powerful supernovas as well but he still gets hurt when facing top tiers and the same goes for Superman.
You don't seem to understand the Sentry at all. The guy's practically unbeatable at this point based on his recent showings and now that we know the Void is calling the shots that's the reason. He always contained the power it's just his normal crazy self was always afraid of letting go and consumed with the guilt of the Void's actions.
All of their peers are scary when not holding back but the sentry is an absolute monster considering his powers and abilities.
