Originally posted by Smasandian
I'm pretty sure the Russian army use AN-94's now.And seriously, you know your bitching if your bitching about a weapon class.
This game is not MW2.
the an-94 not a standard russian infantry weapon... it is used in the army like i said though.
ohhh, quit being so butthurt. the game sucks bro and youre obviously reaching
how do you figure?
i dont mind people having opinions on anything but to say that im wrong and something is awesome without listing any reasons, and to then criticize me for disliking it and listing multiple reasons for why i have that opinion... its just silly. i mean ive been told that i was wrong by three different people but the only person out of those three to address everything i said is jinxd >_>
I said it's not supposed to be Call of Duty and comparing it to Call of Duty is wrong.
Call of Duty is standard deathmatch.
Battlefield games are not standard deathmatch. Call of Duty is well developed game because it only needs to get one aspect of the game right, and that's the shooting aspect.
Battlefield games need to get multiple things right. One is shooting, which I think it nailed. The other is vehicles, which they nailed it and one other big one that Call of Duty will never have is teamwork. And it nailed it pretty damn good also.
The problem you have is that your thinking its Call of Duty and comparing the experience against Call of Duty. Of course the game is going to suck, because it does not play like Call of Duty.
Originally posted by BoratBorat
MW2 was fun for a while like all previous COD's but got terribly repetitive as you keep playing.That being said i look forward to BC2.
@Smas
What GPU are you using? Is it still the 8800GTS SLI?
Yeah, it works fine on medium settings. My friend has a single 8600 I think and it works fine on med settings also.
Originally posted by Ms.Marvel
the m16a2 is the top assault class weapon in the game???!when was this game made, year 2000? haermm
and where the heck is the AK? at least the 74? the ak-74 is the standard assault rifle in the entire russian army... makes sense for it to be in the game, especially when shite like the f2000 is in it and xm8 lul. they do have the an-94... but come on 😬
Honestly, i don't know shit about guns. I just point them at bad guys and make shite dead. There are only three kinds of guns to me, when it comes to video games. Long range (snipes) Medium rang (let'er rip, fully automatic) Short range ( ima get up in your face and wreck your shit...,shottys and pistols)
As for an AK..,I could give a fook less about an AK. I'd much rather have an AR-15
Originally posted by Smasandian
I said it's not supposed to be Call of Duty and comparing it to Call of Duty is wrong.Call of Duty is standard deathmatch.
Battlefield games are not standard deathmatch. Call of Duty is well developed game because it only needs to get one aspect of the game right, and that's the shooting aspect.
Battlefield games need to get multiple things right. One is shooting, which I think it nailed. The other is vehicles, which they nailed it and one other big one that Call of Duty will never have is teamwork. And it nailed it pretty damn good also.
The problem you have is that your thinking its Call of Duty and comparing the experience against Call of Duty. Of course the game is going to suck, because it does not play like Call of Duty.
call of duty has nothing to do with why i dislike this game. these are the reasons why i dislike the game:
- ... should be able to lay down on your belly. the concept should be pretty damn standard by now. no laydown feature is okay in a game like halo or gears where stealth means almost nothing. in games like this and CoD where being visible means death having the ability to lay down would be really helpful 😬- controls are clunky (at least compared to MW which has some of the most fluid and intuitive controls and handling i have ever seen in a game)
- maps are so huge that snipers really are pretty much the most useful and practical class. plus with all the vehicles and shit its easy to run around with a rifle undetected and unharrassed. i dont like games that encourage one specific style of play and this one certainly does. long range combat= best kind of combat in this.
- assault class seems practically useless. there is no incentive to using it... all the other classes have at least decent perks whereas the AC has a grenade launcher thats only good for two shots and a crappy gun. the default ak-971 being almost completely unable to hit anything past 50 feet (which is stupid because the aek-971 has an affective range of 1200 feet... and a max of 3000)... and the few times you do manage to hit someone it doesnt kill them. which... leads me to my next gripe. another problem is the lack of ammo... three reloads seems a bit sparse.
- takes too much bullets to kill someone. i shouldnt have to spend half (or even a quarter) of a clip to kill one person who is right in front of me. it takes a full clip to kill two people. why? again pointing to the uselessness of the assault class and the dominance of the sniper class. if you manage to hit someone from 50 feet away with the AK you wont kill them... even if you hit them with a three round burst which should drop anyone. the hp of people needs to be lowered... id say 2 shots for anyone with twenty feet and 3 or 4 beyond that would be acceptable. the sniper rifle shouldnt be the only gun that doesnt take half a clip to kill someone from a distance. thats ridiculous.
- respawning is kind of odd. the second highest cause of death for me (first being from tanks) was being in the process of hosing one person down with the AK (lulStupid) and half his squad spawns right next to him before my weak ass gun can kill him. i think squad spawns should be based around locations of the map rather than directly next to the person who's still alive.
- medic revivals need a delay. either in bringing out the revival machine thingy or using them. it was kind of funny to me to play as a medic because id watch an ally get killed by someone and before his killer could even reload id brought him back to life and he got his revenge. seems cheap as hell.
i think the problem with this game is that theyre really trying to push the team work aspect... it almost seems as if they dont want you to get lots of kills on your own or be a very affective fighter on your own... which is fine... except no one on LIVE cares about what the developers think. everyone on there plays like the game is halo with modern warfare features in it... so the gameplay turns out to just be a shitty version of modern warfare.
as you can see i listed them already... the only reason i even mentioned call of duty was because i felt that the fields that they did have in common, call of duty did way better. which includes the "shooting" portion, which you think this game did great at, i think it sucks ass. i also feel that the teamwork aspect of the game is broken as well. its not worse than CoD but its not better either because they both have the same problem. in any CoD game in which the whole team is working together the chances are high that youll win the match. case in point? look at the pro games and tourny's, many of which I play at. individual skill does not carry a team. in this game it promotes team work by making you slow and clunky and giving you objectives that you cant achieve on your own... but when you actually play the game with strangers on LIVE there is no team work there is no unity its just wave after wave of your allies running toward the enemy with some snipers hanging back until one or two of them finally breaks through and detonates the bomb, then the fight moves on to the next objective. rinse and repeat. no teamwork required to win just luck and time for the most part...
so no. personally i think the game failed on an individual and macro level altogether... the only thing about this game that sets apart from others imo is that the vehicles are pretty cool... thats about it though.
my final opinion is that this game hasnt done anything that other games havent done better, and its essentially a mixture of all those things put together in a more mediocre way. if the game fixed the points that i listed earlier, then i think it could be good.
Originally posted by Ms.MarvelYour opinions of this game sucking is not fact, it gets annoying when you treat your opinions as facts.
how do you figure?i dont mind people having opinions on anything but to say that im wrong and something is awesome without listing any reasons, and to then criticize me for disliking it and listing multiple reasons for why i have that opinion... its just silly. i mean ive been told that i was wrong by three different people but the only person out of those three to address everything i said is jinxd >_>
no it doesnt. it implies i think the game sucks and im trying to see some reasons for why the game is considered good besides "because it just is!", which is essentially the only thing I've heard so far...
what about the game makes it so incredible? what aspect of the gameplay is unique and intuitive enough to pay 60+ dollars for it? do you think the controls are good? you enjoy playing it with your friends? are specific reasons too much? apparently im an ******* because i gave multiple specific reasons for my dislike for the game... i dont quite understand that though.
even if i was trying to convince people of my side, so what? its a discussion thread... im allowed to defend my point of view no? just because people dont like it doesnt mean i cant do it >_>
What game lets you snipe at a bunch of approaching soldiers, jump out of the building after it's taken down by a tank. Get into a helicopter and act as a gunner, mowing down people then parachuting off the helicopter onto another buidling and then jump on the machine gun and mow down a couple of trees to give people a good line of sight?
I also like the fact your comparing "pro" players and tournament players against beta pub players? How is that a good comparison.
The game is hectic and fun as hell. Something new is always happening. Something funny is always happening. Something special is always happening. I have countless stories from awesome games that I've had in Battlefield games. One involved holding off 3 guys while they try to take a point. Another is laying C4 at the entrance and pretending to run away and when getting chased by the tank I blow it up.
I played it on the PC. The controls are great. The graphics are good. The gameplay is top notch. It provides a different experience than most shooters out there. It's true.
Originally posted by Ms.MarvelWhich essentially means you are trying to convince other people that may like the game that this game sucks and they shouldn't bother spending money on it.even if i was trying to convince people of my side, so what?
That's the impression i am getting. Besides, if this game sucks so hard, why constantly bash the game in this thread? Don't like it don't play it.
Hell if i told you why i liked the game you would keep pestering me to give reasons why i like the game and would try to convince me otherwise.
Originally posted by BoratBorat
Besides, if this game sucks so hard, why constantly bash the game in this thread? Don't like it don't play it.
because its a discussion board and i like to discuss things 😄
Hell if i told you why i liked the game you would keep pestering me to give reasons why i like the game and would try to convince me otherwise.
you mean like i did to smas right?
oh wait... i didnt 😐 i said thank you and moved on >_>
^He has valid points....Ms.Marvel, your rebuttal?
AHHHH SHADDUP!