Wapon X vs Deathstroke's Team

Originally posted by namorsubby
LOL, I still just can't get over the fact you two think me saying Sabes doesn't take this team equates to me low-balling him. It's just so ridiculous that I can hardly believe I'm arguing with you about it.

yes, these characters do have their own list of high-end feats, and if you're gonna put Sabes at his finest, you'll have to do the same for the team. Either way he loses.

lol, I knew you thought the same about wolverine. 😆

Yeah...... but you "still can't get over the fact" that Cap is above peak human and Slade isn't at WW calibur sooooo... that really doesn't mean much to me.

Anywho that's not what I said. What I said was if you're going to equivocate Sabretooth from before ANY one of his previous upgrades to Sabretooth now... or the Sabreooth in THIS THREAD with Adamantium... then you certainly are lowballing him.....

If you're not trying to lowball, then you're strictly ignorant.. but that wouldn't come as a surprise either.

Pffftttt. I wasn't even talking about Sabretooth at his best.....

Sabretooth at his best killed Wendigo with his bare hands, downed a bearer of the Starbrand, ate 3 symbiote creatures and pinned a she hulk to a wall with brute strength... 😐
Yeah team still gets curbed.

Originally posted by jinzin
Yeah...... but you "still can't get over the fact" that Cap is above peak human and Slade isn't at WW calibur sooooo... that really doesn't mean much to me.

Anywho that's not what I said. What I said was if you're going to equivocate Sabretooth from before ANY one of his previous upgrades to Sabretooth now... or the Sabreooth in THIS THREAD with Adamantium... then you certainly are lowballing him.....

If you're not trying to lowball, then you're strictly ignorant.. but that wouldn't come as a surprise either.

Pffftttt. I wasn't even talking about Sabretooth at his best.....

Sabretooth at his best killed Wendigo with his bare hands, downed a bearer of the Starbrand, ate 3 symbiote creatures and pinned a she hulk to a wall with brute strength... 😐
Yeah team still gets curbed.

lol, that's because it's not a fact. On paper, cap's always been human, not superhuman. He's only classified above peak human by a few posters on kmc.

Also, I in no way have once implied that Slade was WW calibur. These are the kind of posts I get from you guys all the time. All you do is twist and exaggerate my actual statements instead of focusing on producing an actual arguement. It's pathetic. Put words in my mouth all you want. It's just reflects on how well you respond to getting shown up.

Yes, everyone one knows Sabes at normal level could easily take this team. If you don't, you're just ignorant. 🙄 GTFO

Batman at his best drew blood from Darkseid. he alone takes sabes.lol

Slade on his best day mght face a team of sabes and comment on how he can do this all day.lol

Originally posted by namorsubby
lol, that's because it's not a fact. On paper, cap's always been human, not superhuman. He's only classified above peak human by a few posters on kmc.

Not a fact..... y'know... if you ignore writer's notes, on panel 3rd person narative, the very basis of the SSS, the multiple on panel titles, statements, and quotes on his superhuman nature, the long long long list of his feats and the handbooks..... then sure... he's a peak human.... just like Daredevil... 🙄

Originally posted by namorsubby
Also, I in no way have once implied that Slade was WW calibur.

😐

Originally posted by namorsubby
A consistency of high feats isn't there for Slade? Are you serious? He's been owning the titans snce day one. Has fought two wonder womans, and has owned the league and members of the league multiple times.I honestly think you have just about every given explanation backwards.

by yourself.

Originally posted by namorsubby
These are the kind of posts I get from you guys all the time. All you do is twist and exaggerate my actual statements instead of focusing on producing an actual arguement. It's pathetic. Put words in my mouth all you want. It's just reflects on how well you respond to getting shown up.

Uh.... no.... although I find it hilarious you think that it's just "everyone else" being crazy.... Maybe you haven't noticed but you don't exactly have some large following supporting your arguments... much the opposite.

Originally posted by namorsubby
Yes, everyone one knows Sabes at normal level could easily take this team. If you don't, you're just ignorant. 🙄 GTFO

Originally posted by namorsubby
Batman at his best drew blood from Darkseid. he only takes sabes.lol

Slade on his best day mght face a team of sabes and comment on how he can do this all day.lol

all i want to know is why does cap have an m16 and grenades when morals are on...

Originally posted by jinzin
Not a fact..... y'know... if you ignore writer's notes, on panel 3rd person narative, the very basis of the SSS, the multiple on panel titles, statements, and quotes on his superhuman nature, the long long long list of his feats and the handbooks..... then sure... he's a peak human.... just like Daredevil... 🙄

😐

Owned...

by yourself.

Uh.... no.... although I find it hilarious you think that it's just "everyone else" being crazy.... Maybe you haven't noticed but you don't exactly have some large following supporting your arguments... much the opposite.

Again, not what was said... 😐

Slade on hsi best day would still be eaten by Sabretooth on his best day... I don't care how many wonder women you think Slade can take.

lol, yes, except there is not comic proof to support that he is superhuman.He's never been a meta and you know it. You couldn't show me anything solid if you wanted to, but go ahead, try.

"Owned.....by yourself"???? Maybe you could be more precise as to what you mean, because that.....that's not a legit response to the statement quoted.

LOL, I never said everyone else. It's always been the same handful of neanderthals, in every thread. Besides that, KMC is generally marvel slanted anyway.

Also, there are many who agree with me concerning Slade vs Cap etc. The only difference between me and them is that they don't waste their time arguing with a handful of posters that they know won't concede due to conflict of interest. They simply post "slade wins" and go about their business. I should, but it's always so interesting to see you guys and your "explanations" and "arguments"lol

I know that's not exactly what you said, but i was just giving you a taste of your own medicine. twisting words and exaggerating statements to get your point across gets you nowhere

lol, there you go again. I never said Slade could 'take" any wonderwomen, but you keep putting words in my mouth and telling me what I think in an attempt to make my argument seem less creditable. Like I said, it's pathetic. You guys seem more interested in presenting these exaggerations as snappy retorts than actually laying out an arguement.

Originally posted by namorsubby
lol, yes, except there is not comic proof to support that he is superhuman.He's never been a meta and you know it. You couldn't show me anything solid if you wanted to, but go ahead, try.

Originally posted by namorsubby
"Owned.....by yourself"???? Maybe you could be more precise as to what you mean, because that.....that's not a legit response to the statement quoted.

Originally posted by namorsubby
LOL, I never said everyone else. It's always been the same handful of neanderthals, in every thread. Besides that, KMC is generally marvel slanted anyway.

The same "handful of neanderthals" roughly translates into anyone who argues against you, which is almost EVERYONE in any thread you've posted in in the last several weeks if you haven't taken notice.

As for it being slanted? Wrong.

Originally posted by namorsubby
Also, there are many who agree with me concerning Slade vs Cap etc. The only difference between me and them is that they don't waste their time arguing with a handful of posters that they know won't concede due to conflict of interest.

Originally posted by namorsubby
I know that's not exactly what you said, but i was just giving you a taste of your own medicine. twisting words and exaggerating statements to get your point across gets you nowhere

No one's twisting anything you've said here. 😕
Although if that helps you sleep at night....

Originally posted by namorsubby
lol, there you go again. I never said Slade could 'take" any wonderwomen, but you keep putting words in my mouth and telling me what I think to in an attempt to make my argument seem less creditable. Like I said, it's pathetic. You guys seem more interesting in presenting these exaggerations as snappy retort than actually laying out an arguement.

Originally posted by jinzin
What's the point? I've already seen people show you exactly that kind of proof and you effortlessly ignore it all. It really doesn't matter what I show you because you have it in your head that a guy who uses his head to cave in apartment buildings is just a peak human.. in spite of actual peak humans saying otherwise.. it's pretty stupid honestly.

Maybe you could read AND comprehend context at the same time? You aren't arguing that DS is around WW calibur? because you're arguments would lead one to believe otherwise... 😐
Sorry if that was too complicated for you to follow.

You don't have to, it's simply basic reasoning that would lead one to understand that this is what you think. Not all of us needed to have something drawn out in crayon to understand it.

The same "handful of neanderthals" roughly translates into anyone who argues against you, which is almost EVERYONE in any thread you've posted in in the last several weeks if you haven't taken notice.

As for it being slanted? Wrong.

No.... again.. context and comprehension.... you should familiarize yourself with them.
There are people who agree that Slade beats Cap in a fight... fair enough.
There's NO ONE who agrees that Slades a superhuman calibur clearly above the likes of Cap OR that Cap isn't low level superhuman. Of course those other people read comics and aren't hanging off Slade's nuts... so again.. understandible.

No... it's not AT ALL what I said, which leads me to believe there's credence into your lack of understanding in concerns to comprehension. 😬

No one's twisting anything you've said here. 😕
Although if that helps you sleep at night....

Again, you didn't have to... you were making an argument of Slade's feats being consistent with fighting two wonderwomen, you left out the context, left out the common sense of it's illigitimacy and just used it to paint Slade up as being something he's not.
I'm not putting anything into your mouth.. the fact is that your double standard induced meathod of debate leaves itself open to be picked apart by it's own inconsistencies. You resorted to making Slade appear above the likes of Cap by drawing on his top level feats and cutting out the fat of his typical depiction... You don't have to say he's WW calibur outright if you keep defecting to him fighting WW as a means to prove his superiority to Cap... it's that simple.

1.lol, you haven't seen them show me proof because no one's shown me proof. And honestly, that's pretty stupid to claim. You just don't want to bother because you know you can't prove your stance, and you shouldn't bother, because you really can't.lol

2.lol, my arguments have nothing to do with it. I say one thing, you turn around and say I'm sayng something else entirely. Don't try to turn around and say that it was me who lead you to believe this, because I myself never said those things or even implied them. Why would you try and hold me responsible for you own warped thoughts? That's really weak.

3.lol, again, take a look at the thread. "everyone" is a handful of the same posters.

4.LOL, you speak of context and comprehension but yet you turn around and post the most ridiculous claims about what I myself think/say, and then suggest that you got them from what i posted? But in reality, if you understood the context and comprehended my statements, you would say no such thing. It's hyppocritical, and not very bright of you

You're telling me that no one agrees that slade is above cap physically? Cause that's just another false statement of yours. Along with the "fact" that no one thinks cap is below superhuman level.

other people read comics and aren't hanging off Slade's nuts... so again.. understandible

exactly what I mean. You'd rather trade crude insults then present an argument. Then you go and give a BS reason as to why you won't bother. Truth is you're just a child who's feelings get hurt when someone opposes a character you have affinity for, and therefore you respond with crude, unprovoked statements such as these.

lol, if I used a feat as reason slade could take Cap, how does that eqaute to me saying slade could take the person from the feat? Like I said, you're twisting my words into something entirely irrelevent to my argument. And you don't even what to present one of your own.

You got pretty much everything wrong in that last statement. way to go👆

I never attempted to use top feats as justification. I simply submitted facts about his speed,strength, etc to prove he was above cap in those categories.

well I think most of us can agree that when slade is involved in a discussion of relatively human level characters subby will do anything he can to back him regardless of anything else. All relatively high feats performed by opposing characters will be marked as occasions of being overpowered while moments of weakness by Deathstroke will be marked as writers not sticking with how he thinks Deathstroke is.

Oh and Weapon-x team sweeps

Originally posted by namorsubby
1.lol, you haven't seen them show me proof because no one's shown me proof. And honestly, [b]that's pretty stupid to claim. You just don't want to bother because you know you can't prove your stance, and you shouldn't bother, because you really can't.lol

2.lol, my arguments have nothing to do with it. I say one thing, you turn around and say I'm sayng something else entirely. Don't try to turn around and say that it was me who lead you to believe this, because I myself never said those things or even implied them. Why would you try and hold me responsible for you own warped thoughts? That's really weak.

3.lol, again, take a look at the thread. "everyone" is a handful of the same posters.

4.LOL, you speak of context and comprehension but yet you turn around and post the most ridiculous claims about what I myself think/say, and then suggest that you got them from what i posted? It's hyppocritical, and not very bright of you[/B]

1.... No, I've seen people show you plenty of proof... you're just ignoring it... That's not legitimate debate, it's willful ignorance. I don't want to bother because you change the perameters of what's acceptable proof everytime someone does so.

2. I hold you responsible because you stated them... 😕
Again, maybe you should learn how to handle context because your arguments are certainly made to be interpreted as we have interpreted them...

3. A handful in this thread, a handful in another, and another, and another.... It's virtually everyone who has even remotely responded to your nonsense so far.

4. Uh.. yeah I talk about context and comprehension because it matters. If you're trying to convince us that Slade is superior to Cap by bring up his fight with Wonderwoman but NOT trying to use WW as a bar for Slade.. then just WHAT are you trying to do? Aside from backtrack and hoping no one hears it like you're michael jackson doing the moon walk.

Originally posted by namorsubby
You're telling me that no one agrees that slade is above cap physically? Cause that's just another false statement of yours. Along with the "fact" that no one thinks cap is below superhuman level.

Originally posted by namorsubby
exactly what I mean. You'd rather trade crude insults then present an argument. Then you go and give a BS reason as to why you won't bother. True is you're just a child who's feelings get hurt when someone opposes a character you have affinity for, and therefore you respond with crude, unprovoked statements such as these.

lol, if I used a feat as reason slade could take Cap, how does that eqaute to me saying slade could take the person from the feat? Like I said, you're twisting my words into something entirely irrelevent to my argument. And you don't even what to present one of your own.

..................... I didn't state any of those things about you specifically, I left them open for interpretation through way of implication AND I did it to help you understand something... I don't have make an outright statement for you to understand the context of that statement... kinda like you and your WW nonsense....
See how that works? Cool huh?

Lol, of course if you have a guilty or insecure consciense then I can understand why you would think those were directed towards you. 😂

I didn't say you said he can "take" Wondy.... again... context... comprehension.... important stuff here.

Originally posted by Uriel005
well I think most of us can agree that when slade is involved in a discussion of relatively human level characters subby will do anything he can to back him regardless of anything else. All relatively high feats performed by opposing characters will be marked as occasions of being overpowered while moments of weakness by Deathstroke will be marked as writers not sticking with how he thinks Deathstroke is.

Oh and Weapon-x team sweeps

Originally posted by Uriel005
well I think most of us can agree that when slade is involved in a discussion of relatively human level characters subby will do anything he can to back him regardless of anything else. All relatively high feats performed by opposing characters will be marked as occasions of being overpowered while moments of weakness by Deathstroke will be marked as writers not sticking with how he thinks Deathstroke is.

Oh and Weapon-x team sweeps

lol, this has nothing to due with slade. It has to do with how ridiculous it is that someone would claim that I'm lowballing Sabretooth just because I say he can't take this whole freakin' team by himself. It's just plain nonsense.

I know you, like a lotta people, may feel the need to "hop on the bandwagon", as they say, but if you're gonna comment, you might want to know what you're talking about.

So...upgraded suit for Prom? If so, I'd lean towards DS team.

Originally posted by namorsubby
lol, this has nothing to due with slade. It has to do with how ridiculous it is that someone would claim that I'm lowballing Sabretooth just because I say he can't take this whole freakin' team by himself. It's just plain nonsense.

I know you, like a lotta people, may feel the need to "hop on the bandwagon", as they say, but if you're gonna comment, you might want to know what you're talking about.

Actually it turned into Slade at the top of the page when I called your nonsense out and you decided to take it to heart, blow it up and derail the thread. So again... CON....TEXT....

upgraded sabretooth wades through all the gear like it's nothing. He kills The Bat duo easily, Deadpool shoots and nades prometheus into oblivion. Wolverine slices the fight outa Deathstroke. The healing factors are too great, Upgraded sabretooth murder-death-kills anyone he's pitted against and the same can't be said for anyone on team 1.

Originally posted by Juk3n
upgraded sabretooth wades through all the gear like it's nothing. He kills The Bat duo easily, Deadpool shoots and nades prometheus into oblivion. Wolverine slices the fight outa Deathstroke. The healing factors are too great, Upgraded sabretooth murder-death-kills anyone he's pitted against and the same can't be said for anyone on team 1.

Like I said earlier, Prom's suit has it all. Almost. He can BFR people, nano second reaction time to evade the Flash, telepathic resistance, darts that can take down Kryptonians, etc... Sabretooth isn't soloing shit.

👆

Originally posted by jinzin
1.... No, I've seen people show you plenty of proof... you're just ignoring it... That's not legitimate debate, it's willful ignorance. I don't want to bother because you change the perameters of what's acceptable proof everytime someone does so.

2. I hold you responsible because you stated them... 😕
Again, maybe you should learn how to handle context because your arguments are certainly made to be interpreted as we have interpreted them...

3. A handful in this thread, a handful in another, and another, and another.... It's virtually everyone who has even remotely responded to your nonsense so far.

4. Uh.. yeah I talk about context and comprehension because it matters. If you're trying to convince us that Slade is superior to Cap by bring up his fight with Wonderwoman but NOT trying to use WW as a bar for Slade.. then just WHAT are you trying to do? Aside from backtrack and hoping no one hears it like you're michael jackson doing the moon walk.

No I'm telling you that no one supports your asinine assertion that DS is strictly above Cap accross the board much less to the degree that you insist he is... The only one who thinks Cap is a mere peak human... is you... so... yeah...

You just regarded me as a neanderthal, two days ago you called me a third grader or some such... It's not like I'm completely unprovoked and you're being some mature adult about the debate.... Likewise.. (AND HERE'S THE KICKER!)

..................... I didn't state any of those things about you specifically, I left them open for interpretation through way of implication AND I did it to help you understand something... I don't have make an outright statement for you to understand the context of that statement... kinda like you and your WW nonsense....
See how that works? Cool huh?

Lol, of course if you have a guilty or insecure consciense then I can understand why you would think those were directed towards you. 😂

I didn't say you said he can "take" Wondy.... again... context... comprehension.... important stuff here.

1. no, they haven't, and you've shown nothing as well. You'd rather waste your time explaining in lengthy sentences your grievances with me, and throwing out childish comments like the one I quoted earlier.

2. lol, you are confused. I haven't stated any of the things that you've claimed.

3.lol, I guess you're not smart enough to realize that you don't add a handful just because they're in another thread. That is, when it's the same handful. 😆

4.Who said I was trying to convince anybody that slade beats cap through a ww feat? It has nothing to do with a singular feat. My argument wasn't based on his encounters with WW's. Do you even know what you're talking about?

I say slade is physically superior. I never said slade was better "across the board". Exactly to what extent do you think I was implying? Because you seem to not understand my statements and therefore every time you try and tell me what i think or say, I have to jump in and correct you.

lol, stop playing dumb jinzin. Do I really need to post for you every inaccurate statement you made concerning what my arguement is? It's alright though,because i know you're just doing it because it diverts the attention away from you not ever presenting an actual argument for what you belief. You spent all your time tryng to dog me and not porving a darn thing you claim. I ask you to show me something to support you argument, and you just give a reason why you won't , and make another exaggerated/false statement about what I'm trying to say

Originally posted by jinzin
Actually it turned into Slade at the top of the page when I called your nonsense out and you decided to take it to heart, blow it up and derail the thread. So again... CON....TEXT....

lol, what I meant was the reason for this whole thing is that I peaved you by saying your precious Sabes couldn't take an entire team of formmidable DC characters, so you brought this up out of nowhere, and in effect blew up, and derailed the thread.

did you not? Because I seem to remember you getting off topic first.

Originally posted by namorsubby
1. no, they haven't, and you've shown nothing as well. You'd rather waste your time explaining in lengthy sentences your grievances with me, and throwing out childish comments like the one I quoted earlier.

2. lol, you are confused. I haven't stated any of the things that you've claimed.

3.lol, I guess you're not smart enough to realize that you don't add a handful just because they're in another thread. That is, when it's the same handful. 😆

4.Who said I was trying to convince anybody that slade beats cap through a ww feat? It has nothing to do with a singular feat. My argument wasn't based on his encounters with WW's. Do you even know what you're talking about?

I say slade is physically superior. I never said slade was better "across the board". Exactly to what extent do you think I was implying? Because you seem to not understand my statements and therefore every time you try and tell me what i think or say, I have to jump in and correct you.

lol, stop playing dumb jinzin. Do I really need to post for you every inaccurate statement you made concerning what my arguement is? It's alright though,because i know you're just doing it because it diverts the attention away from you not ever presenting an actual argument for what you belief. You spent all your time tryng to dog me and not porving a darn thing you claim. I ask you to show me something to support you argument, and you just give a reason why you won't , and make another exaggerated/false statement about what I'm trying to say

lol, what I meant was the reason for this whole thing is that I peaved you by saying your precious Sabes couldn't take an entire team of formmidable DC characters, so you brought this up out of nowhere, and in effect blew up, and derailed the thread.

did you not? Because I seem to remember you getting off topic first.

Damn dude you always calling for proof. People provide scans you ignore. It's like arguing about a painting with a blind man.

Originally posted by Uriel005
Damn dude you always calling for proof. People provide scans you ignore. It's like arguing about a painting with a blind man.

I understand you wanting to buddy up with the neighboring posters, but if you wanna call me out on something, you need to be sure it's actually correct, and not just something you heard someone else say.

Originally posted by namorsubby
1. no, they haven't, and you've shown nothing as well. You'd rather waste your time explaining in lengthy sentences your grievances with me, and throwing out childish comments like the one I quoted earlier.

2. lol, you are confused. I haven't stated any of the things that you've claimed.

3.lol, I guess you're not smart enough to realize that you don't add a handful just because they're in another thread. That is, when it's the same handful. 😆

4.Who said I was trying to convince anybody that slade beats cap through a ww feat? It has nothing to do with a singular feat. My argument wasn't based on his encounters with WW's. Do you even know what you're talking about?

1. We already went over this, you gave a near carbon copy response last time.. got it... it wasn't convincing then either.

2. Confused enough to quote you directly stating the things I'm talking about.... 😐

3. And apparently you're not smart enough to realize they don't all start out the same group in every thread, but instead ADD up... Though context seems to be confusing you enough already I won't DARE throw math into the mix, or linear timelines... one mountaint at a time subby.. one mountain at a time.

4. ?..... I've already clearly explained what I was getting at.. you can't keep up? I'm not surprised. No not a singular feat, a number of feats.. high end feats like tagging flash, being faster than Superman and fighting 2 WW's 😱
Unfortunately, yeah I know what I'm talking about... one of us here has to.

Originally posted by namorsubby
I say slade is physically superior.

Originally posted by namorsubby
I never said slade was better "across the board". Exactly to what extent do you think I was implying? Because you seem to not understand my statements and therefore every time you try and tell me what i think or say, I have to jump in and correct you.

Originally posted by namorsubby
lol, stop playing dumb jinzin. Do I really need to post for you every inaccurate statement you made concerning what my arguement is? It's alright though,because i know you're just doing it because it diverts the attention away from you not ever presenting an actual argument for what you belief. You spent all your time tryng to dog me and not porving a darn thing you claim. I ask you to show me something to support you argument, and you just give a reason why you won't , and make another exaggerated/false statement about what I'm trying to say

Originally posted by namorsubby
lol, what I meant was the reason for this whole thing is that I peaved you by saying your precious Sabes couldn't take an entire team of formmidable marvel characters, so you brought this up out of nowhere, and in effect blow up, and derailed the thread.

did you not? Because I seem to remember you getting off topic first.

Funny I seem to remember telling you equicocating Sabretooth to an 80's depiction was what was wrong with your counter, and then telling you that again, and then again.... me making fun of your DS/Cap position wasn't a derailment to the thread though technically it did start you off on your crusade.... 😐