Superboy Prime vs Amped Silver Surfer.

Originally posted by Cartesian Doubt
Magneto has created Black Holes ... Its not a very hard feat to accomplish, infact scientist are proposing that we humans could probably do it now (With the LHC), and in centuries time we'll be making them with a mass of about 200 million tons, to power interstellar travel. Anyone who has moved a planet, has the energy resources to make Billions of Black holes.

Applied real science wouldn't make much sense in comics, lets just leave
it at that... lolz..

Originally posted by Cartesian Doubt
Magneto has created Black Holes ... Its not a very hard feat to accomplish, infact scientist are proposing that we humans could probably do it now (With the LHC), and in centuries time we'll be making them with a mass of about 200 million tons, to power interstellar travel. Anyone who has moved a planet, has the energy resources to make Billions of Black holes.

I guess you didnt see the size of this black hole that Surfer created and that just a piece of the cake on the reason why I think Surfer is above high herald.

His powerset alone and the things that he has done with the power cosmic puts him above every high herald except Thor (thor has similar feats with power out put).

Thor and Surfer power alone pose a threat to people above the high herald heracy.

Originally posted by Ambient
Miniature wormholes through EMF manipulation not out of a direct result from an energy explosion, like say SS blackhole feat.. The diff. in both feats..

Applied real science wouldn't make much sense in comics, lets just leave
it at that... lolz..

And yet you do it all the time ... You've do it whenever u say

"Oh my god he made a Black Hole!!!" ... "Thats powerful"

Its only through inductive knowledge of science that you know that black holes are hard to create.

You can't have your cake and eat it ... as they say.

Originally posted by Cartesian Doubt
And yet you do it all the time ... You've do it whenever u say

"Oh my god he made a Black Hole!!!" ... "Thats powerful"

Its only through inductive knowledge of science that you know that black holes are hard to create.

You can't have your cake and eat it ... as they say.

Again, look at the black hole that surfer created and you'll see the difference.

Originally posted by carver9
I guess you didnt see the size of this black hole that Surfer created and that just a piece of the cake on the reason why I think Surfer is above high herald.

His powerset alone and the things that he has done with the power cosmic puts him above every high herald except Thor (thor has similar feats with power out put).

Thor and Surfer power alone pose a threat to people above the high herald heracy.

My claim had nothing to do with him being high or low Herald ... I couldn't give a shit about that ... Im saying its not that hrad to create a black hole, relative to other feats such a s moving a planet. The energies levels needed to do this a far superior ... I'm not referring to any character in particular, I'm just clarifying the fact, that moving a planet >>>> creating a black hole.

Originally posted by carver9
Again, look at the black hole that surfer created and you'll see the difference.

See the difference of what ?

I think your having arguments in your head my friend cos, I haven't claimed anything that has a "difference".

Originally posted by Cartesian Doubt
My claim had nothing to do with him being high or low Herald ... I couldn't give a shit about that ... Im saying its not that hrad to create a black hole, relative to other feats such a s moving a planet. The energies levels needed to do this a far superior ... I'm not referring to any character in particular, I'm just clarifying the fact, that moving a planet >>>> creating a black hole.

Originally posted by Cartesian Doubt
See the difference of what ?

I think your having arguments in your head my friend cos, I haven't claimed anything that has a "difference".

You used magneto black hole instance vs Surfers when all in all, Surfers feat is MUCH more impressive and displays a huge significance in power output.

My argument this entire time is that Thor and Surfer is above high herald due to power alone which they have shown.

Originally posted by darthgoober
How do do you figure that? Creating a full sized black hole as a side effect of an energy discharge implies a blast on par with a supernova which is far supperior to the amount of energy necessary to move a planet.

Originally posted by carver9
You used magneto black hole instance vs Surfers when all in all, Surfers feat is MUCH more impressive and displays a huge significance in power output.

My argument this entire time is that Thor and Surfer is above high herald due to power alone which they have shown.

Originally posted by Cartesian Doubt
And yet you do it all the time ... You've do it whenever u say

"Oh my god he made a Black Hole!!!" ... "Thats powerful"

Its only through inductive knowledge of science that you know that black holes are hard to create.

You can't have your cake and eat it ... as they say.

Deductive/inductive true science - whatever - should hold no real bearing in sci-fiction comics - a twisted forms of theory/facts of science.

fiction + true science = Sci-fiction 😱 😄 My 2 cents...

Originally posted by darthgoober
How do do you figure that? Creating a full sized black hole as a side effect of an energy discharge implies a blast on par with a supernova which is far supperior to the amount of energy necessary to move a planet.

No it doesn't .... It would have to be a a Super massive black hole ... which there no proof to suggest it was !!!!

Originally posted by Cartesian Doubt
No it doesn't .... It would have to be a a Super massive black hole ... which there no proof to suggest it was !!!!

Darth, please put up the scan to prove him wrong.

Originally posted by carver9
Darth, please put up the scan to prove him wrong.

I've read the book ... he blasts the dog things and then Skeets make refernce to a "Black Hole thingy". Its hardly what I would call a Supernova incident.

Originally posted by Cartesian Doubt
No it doesn't .... It would have to be a a Super massive black hole ... which there no proof to suggest it was !!!!

Besides, what you're saying would only be true if we had evidence of small black holes forming as a side effect of sub-nova blasts in nature, and I'm pretty sure there's been nothing to suggest that.

SBP wins by WTF factor. Surfer could imprison him in his board, in the microverse, in some kind of temporal/dimensional anomaly, it doesn't matter -- SBP would just punch his way out. Surfer tries to blast him -- he punches away the energy blast. Surfer tries to take him down with his board, like BRB or Gladiator, SBP punches away the board. Surfer tries to punch him, SBP punches his punch.

Surfer has one card to play here, and that is his awesome morality -- unfortunately, while that is enough to take down Mangog (who could arguably beat SBP), it will probably just make SBP punch him.

Originally posted by Simbon
SBP wins by WTF factor. Surfer could imprison him in his board, in the microverse, in some kind of temporal/dimensional anomaly, it doesn't matter -- SBP would just punch his way out. Surfer tries to blast him -- he punches away the energy blast. Surfer tries to take him down with his board, like BRB or Gladiator, SBP punches away the board. Surfer tries to punch him, SBP punches his punch.

Surfer has one card to play here, and that is his awesome morality -- unfortunately, while that is enough to take down Mangog (who could arguably beat SBP), it will probably just make SBP punch him.

LOL 😆 , it wont be that easy and I honestly dont remember prime facing anyone like Surfer.

This would be a good fight but I cant see Surfer pulling the majority (even though I have as of yet to see Surfer get koed by physical might recently. This is the same guy that was taking punches from tenebrous).

Originally posted by Simbon
SBP wins by WTF factor. Surfer could imprison him in his board, in the microverse, in some kind of temporal/dimensional anomaly, it doesn't matter -- SBP would just punch his way out. Surfer tries to blast him -- he punches away the energy blast. Surfer tries to take him down with his board, like BRB or Gladiator, SBP punches away the board. Surfer tries to punch him, SBP punches his punch.

Surfer has one card to play here, and that is his awesome morality -- unfortunately, while that is enough to take down Mangog (who could arguably beat SBP), it will probably just make SBP punch him.

Originally posted by Mindset
Beautiful.

And pretty accurate.

Geez, SBP is one of the worst post-crisis characters DC revived....

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
And pretty accurate.

Geez, SBP is one of the worst post-crisis characters DC revived....

Well this scan show that Surfer has a chance of pulling wins from Prime.

http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/roundtwo3.jpg

And this energy attack that busted up Prime nose prove that Surfers energy attack would mess prime up.

http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/primevssuperboy8.jpg

But I still give him the majority because its prime.

Originally posted by carver9
Well this scan show that Surfer has a chance of pulling wins from Prime.

http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/roundtwo3.jpg

And this energy attack that busted up Prime nose prove that Surfers energy attack would mess prime up.

http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/primevssuperboy8.jpg

But I still give him the majority because its prime.

that wasn't an energy attack.