Originally posted by dmillsI'm guessing that your manner of answering each of my questions with a question is stemming from the fact that you have little to back up your claims.
You said that you read the series. Did you see anything in there that led you to believe he was weaker and slower?
Right now you're simply rephrasing my question and asking me to prove a negative, ie "prove that Majestic ISN'T as strong!".... there are much fewer showings of "weakness" then there are of "strength". Superman has tons of high showings in the areas of physical strength, speed, strength of heat vision, etc. What I haven't seen from Majestic, and what you have yet to provide, is proof that Majestros is typically of a higher order in any of these categories, or any category at all really. You're the one who is claiming that Majestic > Superman, I'm just commenting that I remain unconvinced.
So... convince me. Or concede that you can't back up the claim.
Originally posted by Original Smurph
Majestic used technology and decades to rearrange a solar system.
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Majestic was never said on panel to be a little weaker than Supes. Captain Atom said that Majestic hits almost as hard as Supes. It was during their first fight and Majestic was holding back, because he was a nice guy at the time and not the crazy psychopath that he is now. Any other Majestic misconceptions...please, feel free to ask me.
If the "Uber Majestic" in this thread is the same as the one who became one of the Universals, then even though he has almost no feats (except beating and absorbing an evil version of himself), he stomps an amped Superman. The Universals were sort of like The Endless. They each fulfilled a specific function and were sort of meta-fictionalized. Only lasted for 3 issues or so.
If the "Uber Majestic" in this thread is the one from issue #1 of his first solo series, then that's also current Majestic, seeing as how a semi recent WildCATS issue (#13 or thereabout) had him moving the Earth to put it back on its axis after the events of Armageddon. I think I would give amped Superman the narrow win there, via durability edge.
Originally posted by EnyalusThanks for the correction. Doesn't really change any of the points raised though.
It was done in about one year's time, not decades. 🙂
Originally posted by EnyalusYou would give a Sun Amped Superman only a narrow edge over Majestic?
If the "Uber Majestic" in this thread is the one from issue #1 of his first solo series, then that's also current Majestic, seeing as how a semi recent WildCATS issue (#13 or thereabout) had him moving the Earth to put it back on its axis after the events of Armageddon. I think I would give amped Superman the narrow win there, via durability edge.
Originally posted by Original Smurph
Thanks for the correction. Doesn't really change any of the points raised though.
Originally posted by Original Smurph
You would give a Sun Amped Superman only a narrow edge over Majestic?
Originally posted by EnyalusMy point was generally that there was more to the feat than "Majestic moved a solar system". Simply the tech and time involved adds a level of ambiguity to it, though it is still impressive nonetheless.
I guess not. Was your point that he needed prep to rearrange the solar system, or was that someone else? For instance, the gloves he used prep to make to move Mercury and other planets, he only needed so that Mercury wouldn't come apart when he was pushing it, because Wildstorm physics don't work like mainstream DCU physics. The strength was still all Maj though. But that may have been someone else's insinuation.
Originally posted by EnyalusI dunno what the thread starter intended. Showings for regular Superman vary similarly though, to the point where I can't decide who I think would win, which leads me to believe that an amped Superman would get a fair majority.
Are we talking the one from OWAW, or the Darkseid asskickery of Superman/Batman sunamp, or what? Showings vary.
IMO, of course.
Originally posted by Original Smurph
My point was generally that there was more to the feat than "Majestic moved a solar system". Simply the tech and time involved adds a level of ambiguity to it, though it is still impressive nonetheless.
Originally posted by Original Smurph
I dunno what the thread starter intended. Showings for regular Superman vary similarly though, to the point where I can't decide who I think would win, which leads me to believe that an amped Superman would get a fair majority.
Originally posted by Galan007
I seem to remember Majestic wearing 'kinetic field gauntlets' when he moved the moons, etc.Granted I'm not sure if Majestic needed the gauntlets to preform those feats (haven't read his solo series' in quite a while) - but it seems odd that he would have worn them if they weren't necessary..?
Didn't he need them so the planet wouldn't crumble or something like this.
Originally posted by Galan007
I seem to remember Majestic wearing 'kinetic field gauntlets' when he moved the moons, etc.Granted I'm not sure if Majestic needed the gauntlets to preform those feats (haven't read his solo series' in quite a while) - but it seems odd that he would have worn them if they weren't necessary..?
He needed to wear them to hold the planet together while he was moving it, otherwise it would crumble. Wildstorm physics =/= DCU physics.