Originally posted by DarkOdin
Dialogue means little when we see on-panel evidence what it did. Juggs got his ass kicked hard and look like crap and even styrength was nothing compared to have he was manhandling him before.
Please generate some reasoning. The writer made his intentions clear. When Thor threw his hammer, the only difference was Juggernauts FF was gone. Thor confirms this. To further emphasize that he tied the FF to Juggernauts durability, Defalco has Juggernaut say that his durability is removed. later, when the hammer returns, the only difference is Juggernauts FF is back. There's no other way to possible interpret that scene. If Thor had cut Juggernaut off from his enchantment, he would reverted back to Cain Marko, the human, and would've killed him with one punch.
Also, manhandled you say? How come he didn't have a single mark on him? How come the narration says despite Thor's best efforts, he can put Juggernaut down?
Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
Please generate some reasoning. The writer made his intentions clear. When Thor threw his hammer, the only difference was Juggernauts FF was gone. Thor confirms this. To further emphasize that he tied the FF to Juggernauts durability, Defalco has Juggernaut say that his durability is removed. later, when the hammer returns, the only difference is Juggernauts FF is back. There's no other way to possible interpret that scene. If Thor had cut Juggernaut off from his enchantment, he would reverted back to Cain Marko, the human, and would've killed him with one punch.Also, manhandled you say? How come he didn't have a single mark on him? How come the narration says despite Thor's best efforts, he can put Juggernaut down?
The narration doesn't say jack about not being able to but Juggs down while he was cut-off.
The narration on states that before Thor can lay him out with a final blow that the FF is back.
Also cutting him off from his powers only weakens him as stated here
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l92/priest_85/WWH_Xmen_3_DCP_0015.jpg
Juggs can and would get put down if Thor cuts him off. Be it by his forcefield being directly link to his durability or just a all around weakened state from it. Either way it works the writers different changing how it works doesn matter b/c either way the same goal is acheived.
Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
Thor after he said what he said above: "No longer art thou protected by thy impenetrable force-field. [b]No longer is the Juggernaut truly unstoppable."It's quite clear what Defalco was implying. After the 60 seconds was up, what was different? The force-field was back. If Thor nullified Juggernauts enchantment, he would've killed him with one punch. [/B]
Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
If Thor had cut Juggernaut off from his enchantment, he would reverted back to Cain Marko, the human, and would've killed him with one punch.
that's not entirely true.
remember when juggernaut and black tom cassidy wanted to share juggernaut's powers and both be unstoppable? well what happened was that cyttorak DIVIDED the incoming mystical power cain were to receive and the flow went to the both of them, making two "half juggernauts".
back then (and not just per that vs thor issue) juggernaut's power was being transmitted to him, that's how it could be blocked by thor's vortex.
and as we know from his x-men tenure, he was absorbing some of the mystical energies of cyttorak which was enough to keep him in the class 100 catagory, but not enough to hang with the big boys, hence the thor incident.
