Hive Tyrant, For Commander, Farseer, v.s. FF7 crew, Spartans, and StarKiller

Started by ScreamPaste2 pages
This sounds an AWFUL LOT like the killik hive mind/dark nest in star wars. Alot like it. and guess what, it did not affect the force. Jedi could still use the force against it, and could even use the force to counter it.

Tyranids actually inspired most of the other hive minds in fiction, so that there are paralels doesn't surprise me. That said, there are key differences. The Killiks don't sound like their hive mind actively messed with anyone's connection to the force. The hive mind does. The scale on which it's able to do so is pretty incredible.

I lol'd.
Considering that the hive mind is the only thing the chaos gods fear, I'd say it's highly likely.

The only thing the Chaos Gods fear?

Star Gods/C'tan and (Possibly) Starchild Emperor (If that is actually canon and happens).

Or possibly Enslavers.

Starchild Emperor (If that is actually canon and happens).
I doubt it, it'd be a massive departure from their usual grimdark fluff.

Star Gods/C'tan and (Possibly)
I've never heard that they fear the C'tan.

The Hive mind is on a level with these beings, regardless. 😛

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
I've never heard that they fear the C'tan.

The Hive mind is on a level with these beings, regardless. 😛

That's funny, I've never heard of them being afraid of the Hive Mind either.

K.

well to be honest if any said jedi would become a joiner, either by choice or by the will of Unu (thats the name of the hive mind)
then their ability to use the force would not lesson, but become astronomical because they would be sharing the force essence of all the being in the hive. There were some instances where the will of Unu would overpower the jedi and they could not use the Force, but if the jedi was strong enough he or she could over come Unu's will

well to be honest if any said jedi would become a joiner, either by choice or by the will of Unu (thats the name of the hive mind)
then their ability to use the force would not lesson, but become astronomical because they would be sharing the force essence of all the being in the hive. There were some instances where the will of Unu would overpower the jedi and they could not use the Force, but if the jedi was strong enough he or she could over come Unu's will
HEre's where the differences really start to show. The Hivemind does not allow joiners. It exists only for one purpose. One deep, philosophical purpose:

"OMNOMNOM OM NOMNOMMMOMNOMNOM."

The Tyranid Hivemind is also known for /killing/ people who try to use their power within it's range of influence, as well as cutting off their connection to that source.

Sephiroth blows up the Galaxy your hive is in. /thread.

SUPERNOVA FTW!

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
"OMNOMNOM OM NOMNOMMMOMNOMNOM."

The Tyranid Hivemind is also known for /killing/ people who try to use their power within it's range of influence, as well as cutting off their connection to that source.

in that case then.....ok. bummer. as far as stripping a jedi of his power or connection to the force though. thats only happened 2 times to my knowledge. 1) the jedi counsel on Dantooine roughly 2000 yrs BBY stripped a Reven of her force connection, and a jedi named Jax Pavan kinda cut his own connection off from the force, but both cases regained the ability.

The force is not some conjurers trick or magic. It is everywhere, in all living things. Symbionts live inside blood cells. They mixed with Midi-chlorians allow someone to use the force. the higher midi count, the better you can control the force, or have access to more power.

so unless the hive mind can take midi-chlorians away from Galen then i don't see it stripping him of his power

upon reflection of my last statement that looks majorly geeky....i apologize

The force is not some conjurers trick or magic. It is everywhere, in all living things. Symbionts live inside blood cells. They mixed with Midi-chlorians allow someone to use the force. the higher midi count, the better you can control the force, or have access to more power.

This is similar to how powers work in 40K, very similar. It's slightly more mystical and slightly less biological, buuut:
The Shadow in the warp is pretty kool, 'splodes brains and doesn't afraid of anything.

My actual argument: If it's possible for Jedi to cut off one another's connection to the force, it shoudl also be possible for the hive mind, This is also temporary, once they're not longer within range of it's influence they are no longer effected.

upon reflection of my last statement that looks majorly geeky....i apologize
It's KMC. We had a thread comparing cup size between two characters recently. Nothing is too geeky.

i read that...interesting.

As for your argument, i don't know exactly how the jedi were able to strip the force from Revan, that is a big debate in star wars world, i don't have evidence to suggest that only force users could do it to other force users. While that is my theory, i have no evidence to back it up, and it could very well be possible for the hive that you speak of to have that effect.

With the evidence brought forth, i would say that yes the hive mind would possibly affect Galen to the point that his ability to use the force would diminish, but not go away completely. It would diminish to the point that his reliance on it would be his downfall when it would become stripped of him. therefore, the hive wins.

i love to talk about star wars, more topics would be interesting. the star wars versus forum is sad....

Try factpile, it's full of star warsiness.

factpile.com?

Yes. you'll learn a lot about 40K there, too. 😛

yeh i checked out some of their star wars verses and i might sign up. didn't seem to be a lot of knowledge going around, just preferences. and yes i did see references to 40k......might i ask what it is?

A table top wargame, and one of the most over-powered verses evar. It's win.

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