X-Men: Second Coming

Started by willRules11 pages

I hope not,

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Nightcrawler
is one of my favourites! It would make sense though....

I predict that

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Since this is going to deal once and for all with the Hope plot that has been running since Messiah Complex and Cable's mission is to guard Hope, by the end of this event Cable will either end up on the current rooster or die. Hope will also either be dead or on the team. I'm thinking for her, more likely the latter.

Originally posted by AlmightyKfish
http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=25592

So, bets anyone?

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I'm gonna take Nightcrawler, as you know, then conveniently enough the most ethical X-man is out of the way. Laying the path for more sanctioned mass murder.

I have some candidates:

Nightcrawler:Not too much has been done with the character and he's been questioning Scott lately.

Cable:He accomplished his job to protect Hope. He raised her much like Slim and Red raised him in the future. I wonder what his death will trigger in Hope.

Hope:They could kill her only to be reborn as a Phoenix (not Jean). Maybe her death will undo Wanda's curse. Thats a long shot though as she was not in that teaser image.

Does anyone besides me wonder what they're gonna do with Bishop's plight now?

He racked up a Samurai Jack-esque body count while trying to stop Hope, the least they could do is give him a bone and say he was right. Bishop has been useless for so long.

-AC

No, Bishop won't be right because he's killed too many people. Even if Hope is responsible for the events of his future, it still won't come to pass.

Bishop can only be right to the extent that Hope's powers are destructive in nature with the potential to cause his future, but the X-men will obviously save the day.

Personally I'm hoping the opposite will be true. Cable's right and Hope is the mutant saviour, unfortunately, Cable dies. This would bring a brilliant element of ring composition to his character. Cable has come full circle, being the old soldier out of time, able to raise a child through time like his father did and bringing it all back to present day culminating in his death.

New Mutants #12 Preview:
It has been a while since I've enjoyed the X-books, they just went

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all hellboy on her ass.

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=preview&id=4854&disp=table

I read the second installment of Second Coming today and, I must say, I thoroughly enjoyed it.

It's very exciting as far as pacing is concerned. I hope they don't just gloss over

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the revelation of Cyclops forming X-Force
, because that seems too big of a deal to the people who found it out. It must be hard for Hope to come back into this time and see things that allude to care-free teenage life, knowing she's essentially just a soldier with no childhood. They convey it well.

On a side note, the cover to New Mutants #12 is mind-blowingly immaculate. Adi Granov can really draw.

I agree, Will. I really love Cable's character, I like what he represents and I think this would be a perfectly fitting swan song. Provided he stays gone for a good while.

-AC

W. T. F? 😑

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri

I agree, Will. I really love Cable's character, I like what he represents and I think this would be a perfectly fitting swan song. Provided he stays gone for a good while.

-AC

✅ Absolutely.

The whole "Messiah" trilogy has really been a Cable centric story, even more so than Hope herself. Messiah Complex was all about him coming back to the future to prevent events that would cause the downfall of Mutantkind- just like when he originally appeared. Messiah Complex ended with the assassination of Xavier, just like the opening of X-cutioner's Song, the definitive Cable and Stryfe centric storyline.

Messiah War consists of the return of both of Cable's arch nemeses, Apocalypse and Stryfe. The central premise of Cable's ongoing and Messiah War was him raising a child in the future where it would be theoretically much safer, although this was also untrue, just like Cable's own growing up. Plus Messiah War further emphasised the plot of Messiah Complex, that to the good guys, Hope is the Mutant Saviour- a title originally ascribed to Cable himself a long time ago.

The last few major X-men events have been dropping massive hints to Cable's own origin whilst showing Hope's. Even really small details like the red hair of Hope- an obvious allusion to Jean, Cable's mother (well it's Madelyne, but same thing really).

So this third and final part of the trilogy better have some resounding conclusions for Cable's character. I'm thinking he goes out in a blaze of glory, protecting Hope.

Originally posted by H. S. 6
W. T. F? 😑

WHAAAAAA??????

If that's seriously true, that is one of the biggest changes to X-men and Spider-man in like, well ever......

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri

On a side note, the cover to New Mutants #12 is mind-blowingly immaculate. Adi Granov can really draw.
-AC

Granov is amazing

http://img111.imageshack.us/i/axmgb001010qy5.jpg/

Originally posted by willRules
WHAAAAAA??????

If that's seriously true, that is one of the biggest changes to X-men and Spider-man in like, well ever......

I doubt that'll be an in-continuity series. Just a side series.

Regardless, I don't know where they're going with that if it's real.

-AC

Just finished Part 1 great start

but why is Angel back in his original form and not Archangel??

Originally posted by Kazenji
Just finished Part 1 great start

but why is Angel back in his original form and not Archangel??

It was decent.

He can switch between them - Angel in X-Men, Archangel in X-Force. The fact that his Death persona returned was kept in secret. Aside from Cyke and X-Force, only Beast knew... correct me if I'm wrong.

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
Granov is amazing

http://img111.imageshack.us/i/axmgb001010qy5.jpg/

Yes, and it goes perfectly with the writing. That version of emma is... fabulous.
On a more serious note, there's this thing i found while idly browsing the net for previews...

If emma dies, i'll have to find a new person to be a fangirl about! Marvel can't do that to me! (then again, i have always admired Storm...)
But if Fraction is writing is writing or has a say in this, If she does die she'll come back after a few issues of Cyclops mourning, then he'll find a new girl friend, then she'll come back, and his life will be very complicated...

Why would Fraction all of a sudden be writing X-Force?

It's not going to be Colossus- his character has just come back.

I doubt it'll be Iceman.

Who is that between them? Is that supposed to be one of the Cuckoo's? Psylocke? If It's Betsy- then it won't be her.

It could be Angel, a fallen Angel would be very stylish and I'm sure whoever gets to draw that death scene would have a field day. However Angel has recently had some major changes in X-force so it might be too much of a waste to kill him now.

Emma Frost? Maybe. But she's Cyke's love interest and with nobody to fill that void at the moment I think she'll stay.

Which leaves Nightcrawler and Cable. Both are strong possibilities in my opinion. I don't want Kurt to die (he's old school cool) but I think he will have prominence in this storyline due to his opposition to the Kill or be Killed approach of X-force. Cable, as already mentioned has almost completed his mission and therefore his death is more likely than ever. The only thing making me rethink Cable is that he supposedly died just before Messiah Complex, hence the shock that he had the baby in the storyline.

I'm going to speculate that it's Emma.

Cyclops is trying to organise the protection and resurrection of the mutant species, how tragic would it be for him to lose that which is most important to him while trying to save his own species? I think that BECAUSE she's his love interest, she'll be killed off.

A shame if it's her, because I like Emma.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
I'm going to speculate that it's Emma.

Cyclops is trying to organise the protection and resurrection of the mutant species, how tragic would it be for him to lose that which is most important to him while trying to save his own species? I think that BECAUSE she's his love interest, she'll be killed off.

A shame if it's her, because I like Emma.

-AC

Let hope your speculation is highly wrong.

Her fan base is surprising high. But your right about the strong connection between mutant species that binds Scott.

If they want to make a huge impact on the X-verse they'll probably kill off Emma.

That picture kinda hints at it being wolverine doesent it?