Originally posted by SamZED
Sable tossing him out of the car was before DD's appearance and was not a fight, DP was just sitting next to her fooling around like he always does, so she used it to her advantage. "he never got a hit on her" You're making it sound like it was a battle and like he he was actually trying to.
It was DP who got in her face and drew his guns. He initiated it all. She disarmed him, punched him, then kicked him out. It wasnt a fight because it was one sided on her favor. Like you say, DP always fools around yet no everyone is victorious against him. Im not saying he tried to fight her, but it was him who drew the weapons first, which was my initial point about her having guns.
Originally posted by SamZED
When DD attacked DP it was a sneak attack, DP didn't know he was there and didn't see it coming. That's where the fight started.
DP attacked DD while dodging every shot from Sable. I don't see where you're getting 6/10 for DD if all DD did was land ONE punch using the fact that DP couldn't see him in the dark (that didn't even do any harm) only to get knocked into the wall with a lazy kick from Deadpool like he was just annoyance. That is all the exchange that happened between the two, so if anything DP is a better fighter judging by the fight.
The entire fight started with Sable and DP in the car, which then turned into a gunfire car chase. You get DP being a better fighter by him kicking DD into a wall(which didnt hurt either)? Im failing to see how going by that fight, you can say DP is a better fighter than DD. Because he was able to kick DD into a wall?
Originally posted by SamZED
His speed feats are easilly on the same level as DD's and some are better. As for the contest of the champions the whole thing was a set up, with DP "accidentally" falling to the roof where the dall was hidden and "accidentally" dropping the doll. Deadpool didn't want to kill him that's why he tricked him instead of really fighting him, it's proved by the fact that in the end he could've pulled the trigger on him but didn't. So its not the best example of them fighting since it wasn't a real fight but a set up.
Before the doll business even came into play, DD was easily having his way with DP. Thats clear. DP knew from the jump that he was there as a "hero" and not to kill DD. Dd was even able to disarm him in the first panel. Are you saying DP let DD kick him off the roof? I dont think the doll was hidden for the simple fact that most if not all of the contestants were placed in the battle area and almost instatly put to fight. Seems like youre implying some sort of prep? The fight was for someone to win. Deadpool wouldnt just kill DD at the end because he wasnt paid to do so, and there would be no point considering he knows DD is a hero and they were both representing that.
Originally posted by SamZED
....but i give Deadpool 8/10 and that's without granades or guns.DP is blinded by his own granade and DD uses it to toss him of the waterfall. DP has no guns and no swords still they decide t pay him off so he'd stop coming after them. The team only gained the advantage after Deadpool got blinded, they didn't do so well during the actual fight.
Give DP 8/10 without nades or guns based off what? The tussle with Sable and DD?
DP was not blinded by his grenade. He threw it and turned his head so he wouldnt be blinded. DP was getting disarmed throughout the encounters. Again, DD hit him and made him drop his sword. Sable already disarmed him and had his guns. He was only after Sable and she payed him to tell her who hired him and to leave her alone. DD was just there to help. They didnt do so well, but they were looking better than him. You stating "with DP occasionally tossing them around." is some ways off.
Originally posted by Wild Shadow
lets keep it rulinh i dont see DD dodging a grenade explosion without a heavy dose of PIS....DD would get ripped apart in mid air as he does his best to twist and turn and realizes he cant dodge a blast wave.
Well i think if engaged in combat, it would be CIS if DD wasnt able to evade a grenade thrown while in combat..
He was even able to dodge a grenade in mid air tossed by Bullseye, so DP taking him out is something id consider PIS or CIS. 馃槵
Originally posted by Mindset
But what you stated was stupid, so I was giving you the opportunity to change your mind.
Stupid in your opinion. Youre entitled to that. DD has already been shown to dodge gunfire from the best as well as disarm him on different occasions. Hed also be harder to hit in h2h, so DD binding him isnt to far off. the only advantages i see DP having is the hf and a grenade if he decides to use.
What makes you think he's faster when DP has comparable feats for everything, to my knowledge, DD has done?
If he's a better fighter, it's negligible, DP has fought evenly with the best Marvel MA, IF, Wolverine, Cap.
It comes down to DP being able to take more damage and fight longer, he allows himself to get hit, and it wont matter, DD doesn't have that luxury.
Originally posted by jrodslamYeah about as one sided as Cap America beating the crap outta Punisher during CW who wasn't fighting back. It wasn't a fight, not even close, Sable attacked DP tossed him and ran away. Big deal. Doesn't help your argument tbh and says nothing about their fighting skills. Sable couldn't do jack to an unarmed DP even with DD's help. Yet you're making it sound like that instance proves she's a better fighter.馃槵
It was DP who got in her face and drew his guns. He initiated it all. She disarmed him, punched him, then kicked him out. It wasnt a fight because it was one sided on her favor. Like you say, DP always fools around yet no everyone is victorious against him. Im not saying he tried to fight her, but it was him who drew the weapons first, which was my initial point about her having guns.
Originally posted by jrodslamMy statement about DP tossing them around came from the fact that he treated DD like a ragdoll at that point. And "blinded" or "turned around" doesnt help your argument either. The fact remains DD only manages to fight DP who's either blinded or doesn't see him coming. And Sable didn't "play" him, she knew that's the only way he'll stop coming after them, probably knew that he'd eventually murder them both judging by the fight.
DP was not blinded by his grenade. He threw it and turned his head so he wouldnt be blinded. DP was getting disarmed throughout the encounters. Again, DD hit him and made him drop his sword. Sable already disarmed him and had his guns. He was only after Sable and she payed him to tell her who hired him and to leave her alone. DD was just there to help. They didnt do so well, but they were looking better than him. You stating "with DP occasionally tossing them around." is some ways off.
Originally posted by jrodslamA doll that is speciafically designed to fool DD's radar sense into thinking that it's a child.. You think Deadpool has these hidden in his belt all the time? And exactly, the fall from the roof (notice conviniently into the pool) was just Deadpool leading DD to the place he wanted to, heck he was even shooting for the show. Notice he didn't really want to hit him with bullets or he would've pulled the trigger later. Don't know what part of the "fight" you're so proud of. DD kicking Deadpool while he was getting out of the pool? Says a lot about his fighting skills.馃槵 And Deadpool getting "accidently" tripped so he could drop the fake doll into the dumpster causing DD to land there so DP could end the fight without hurting him or having to throw a punch? As of now we have 3 enounter:
Before the doll business even came into play, DD was easily having his way with DP. Thats clear. DP knew from the jump that he was there as a "hero" and not to kill DD. Dd was even able to disarm him in the first panel. Are you saying DP let DD kick him off the roof? I dont think the doll was hidden for the simple fact that most if not all of the contestants were placed in the battle area and almost instatly put to fight. Seems like youre implying some sort of prep? The fight was for someone to win. Deadpool wouldnt just kill DD at the end because he wasnt paid to do so, and there would be no point considering he knows DD is a hero and they were both representing that.
Originally posted by jrodslamThat and the fact that DP holds a lot of advantges over DD while DD holds 0.What are your reasons? A staged fight that DD lost and a poor showing in another fight?
Give DP 8/10 without nades or guns based off what? The tussle with Sable and DD?
Originally posted by jrodslam
I do believe that DD is faster
Well...he isn't so please stop believing it, one of these guys is superhumanly fast, ie to appear in a snipers croshair some distance off in one panel, then to be behind said sniper in the next. And the other guy is pretty fast for a human, in comics, dodging bullets is bread and butter of the peak human staple.
DD isnt more agile either. Blow for blow he'd go down and he can't spend the whole round dodging a faster more agile opponent who doesn't tire and cant be sufficiently damaged by human fists bad enough to be put down. :/
These speed feats of DP's are crazy, where did he get these abilities?
I always thought he was using a teleportational device but you guys keep telling me he doesn't. How does he do this? Or is it just terrible writing?
He recently said Spidey was impressively fast.
And Spidey isn,t as fast as you guys state DP is!
Originally posted by the ninjakWell, im a big Deadpool fan but I admit that Spider-man's faster than him, there's nothing wrong with DP being surprised by his speed, Spider-man's dodged a bullet AFTER it was fired and that was an inch away from his body. Heck one time he outran a bullet (and cought it later) the guy's crazy fast. As for Deadpool's speed, the thing is, he always was that fast. The sniper thing happened like in his 4th appearance and I think he didn't even HAVE a teleporter back then.
These speed feats of DP's are crazy, where did he get these abilities?
I always thought he was using a teleportational device but you guys keep telling me he doesn't. How does he do this? Or is it just terrible writing?
He recently said Spidey was impressively fast.
And Spidey isn,t as fast as you guys state DP is!
Originally posted by the Juk3nQFT
Well...he isn't so please stop believing it, one of these guys is superhumanly fast, ie to appear in a snipers croshair some distance off in one panel, then to be behind said sniper in the next. And the other guy is pretty fast for a human, in comics, dodging bullets is bread and butter of the peak human staple.DD isnt more agile either. Blow for blow he'd go down and he can't spend the whole round dodging a faster more agile opponent who doesn't tire and cant be sufficiently damaged by human fists bad enough to be put down. :/
