Originally posted by quanchi112
But you won't answer me how. If Surfer fights at his best it's an absolute monster when put against Superman. To suggest Black Adam beats him is also ignorant considering Surfer is more powerful, more durable, and more versatile.You also seem to forget Black Adam and Hulk would probably fight each other seeing as how the both like to pound away at things.
Atom gets crushed by Thor.
You really don't know much about most of the characters from team one and actually think guys who punch hard can whip them at their best.
Yes I won't answer YOU. Great you grasped the point. Honestly I'm impressed. 😱
You DC hate and Marvel wanking in you post isn't worth replying, honestly. I don't even know why i reply to you sometimes. It's pointless, you admitted that you hate DC and Superman even more. You read only those scans from DC which help you low ball DC chars, you do not read DC stories and even admitted that you don't understand them (Final Crisis). You also admitted that no one in DCU can beat Thanos, so why should i bother with you opinion anymore? Honestly?
I think about the example some people already gave and put you on ignore. It surely as hell would save me some facepalm moments.
Originally posted by carver9
What if Surfer hits Supes with red sunlight in the beginning of the match?
What if Superman evades this blast? It wouldn't be the first one to evade the SS. What if BA or CA shields Supes? Well, this is not an what if what you wish. Teams fight to win and team two wins. BTW Quan, I bet i read SS comics before you even knew him. 🙂
Originally posted by Batman-Prime
Yes I won't answer YOU. Great you grasped the point. Honestly I'm impressed. 😱You DC hate and Marvel wanking in you post isn't worth replying, honestly. I don't even know why i reply to you sometimes. It's pointless, you admitted that you hate DC and Superman even more. You read only those scans from DC which help you low ball DC chars, you do not read DC stories and even admitted that you don't understand them (Final Crisis). You also admitted that no one in DCU can beat Thanos, so why should i bother with you opinion anymore? Honestly?
I think about the example some people already gave and put you on ignore. It surely as hell would save me some facepalm moments.
He does have a point with this quan and I'm only basing this off of the things you say about Wonder Woman. Everyone else, I think you give them justice. I have seen you give Superman wins plenty of times against people.
Originally posted by Batman-PrimeI like dc I just hate Superman but that being said I still give him wins over characters I think he beats. I give him a majority over Gladiator and have been labeled as bias for doing so.
Yes I won't answer YOU. Great you grasped the point. Honestly I'm impressed. 😱You DC hate and Marvel wanking in you post isn't worth replying, honestly. I don't even know why i reply to you sometimes. It's pointless, you admitted that you hate DC and Superman even more. You read only those scans from DC which help you low ball DC chars, you do not read DC stories and even admitted that you don't understand them (Final Crisis). You also admitted that no one in DCU can beat Thanos, so why should i bother with you opinion anymore? Honestly?
I think about the example some people already gave and put you on ignore. It surely as hell would save me some facepalm moments.
I never said Thanos can beat every character in the dc universe you became obsessed with it and keep asking me. Leave it alone.
I said fc was hard to interpret and most people disagree which leads me to believe it wasn't good writing.
You are wrong about pretty much everything you posted here.
Originally posted by carver9I don't have a high opinion of WW compared to elite top tiers.
He does have a point with this quan and I'm only basing this off of the things you say about Wonder Woman. Everyone else, I think you give them justice. I have seen you give Superman wins plenty of times against people.
Originally posted by carver9
He does have a point with this quan and I'm only basing this off of the things you say about Wonder Woman. Everyone else, I think you give them justice. I have seen you give Superman wins plenty of times against people.
Yes because he deserves it. I also said, more then once that Supes and Thor are equals, Thor and SS should be too, SS and Superman also. So your point is? I don't mind Superman losing, there are a lot of people in Marvel and DC who would beat him for an majority or at least for an split (if they are in his weightclass). But when I see an team with an real disadvantage, WWH a nonflyer and arguably the slowest of all, I do consider this. Replace WWH with BRB and a Stalemate is more then probably.
Originally posted by Batman-PrimeIf you read the comics you'd see nonflyers like DD are a real problem for Superman. WW Hulk is a real problem in the marvel universe when he wants to be.
Yes because he deserves it. I also said, more then once that Supes and Thor are equals, Thor and SS should be too, SS and Superman also. So your point is? I don't mind Superman losing, there are a lot of people in Marvel and DC who would beat him for an majority or at least for an split (if they are in his weightclass). But when I see an team with an real disadvantage, WWH a nonflyer and arguably the slowest of all, I do consider this. Replace WWH with BRB and a Stalemate is more then probably.
Originally posted by quanchi112
I like dc I just hate Superman but that being said I still give him wins over characters I think he beats. I give him a majority over Gladiator and have been labeled as bias for doing so.I never said Thanos can beat every character in the dc universe you became obsessed with it and keep asking me. Leave it alone.
I said fc was hard to interpret and most people disagree which leads me to believe it wasn't good writing.
You are wrong about pretty much everything you posted here. I don't have a high opinion of WW compared to elite top tiers.
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Stop riding the "someone called me dc biased, so I'm not" bullshit. You posts here contradict this statement everytime you post.
I won't leave it alone but i will put you on ignore, this will make us both happy 🙂.
Ok...
That's actually an compliment from you.
Originally posted by quanchi112
If you read the comics you'd see nonflyers like DD are a real problem for Superman. WW Hulk is a real problem in the marvel universe when he wants to be.
Oh please quan, just because someone (ODG?) humiliated you by pointing out that you didn't read "Last Planet standing" doesn't means that everyone doesn't read the comics he talks about. Keep your hurt feelings and your insecurity to yourself, kk? 🙂
Originally posted by Batman-Prime
Yes because he deserves it. I also said, more then once that Supes and Thor are equals, Thor and SS should be too, SS and Superman also. So your point is? I don't mind Superman losing, there are a lot of people in Marvel and DC who would beat him for an majority or at least for an split (if they are in his weightclass). But when I see an team with an real disadvantage, WWH a nonflyer and arguably the slowest of all, I do consider this. Replace WWH with BRB and a Stalemate is more then probably.
A stalemate with Beta Ray Bill added, no, it would be a stomp.
BRB is thor but a none holding back thor (thor is a lil more powerful though).
Adding BRB is overkill and WWH being here is overkill if you ask me.
Silver Surfer/Beta Ray Bill/Thor on teams, I promise you that you cant put 3 high heralds together that could defeat them. That IS the ultimate team.
Originally posted by Batman-PrimeCalm down. You're so rattled right now and it's just because we disagree. Your post was off and ignored these characters to their max. Superman has weaknesses most other characters don't which makes certain characters really bad matchups for him.
😐Stop riding the "someone called me dc biased, so I'm not" bullshit. You posts here contradict this statement everytime you post.
I won't leave it alone but i will put you on ignore, this will make us both happy 🙂.
Ok...
That's actually an compliment from you.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
a) To what? Norrin's energy absorption?b) Wouldn't the fact that Superman's powers come from the Sun be considered common knowledge? Thor's done it enough times to warrant it being considered. I never said he would do it for a majority either or more times then he would whack him. As a matter of fact, I never even argued he would do it here. I just simply stated that I always wondered why people bring up Norrin draining Superman much more than Thor doing it.
a) Energy absorption being a plausible tactic.
b) no, i wouldnt consider being a solar battery to be common knowledge, personally.
Originally posted by carver9
What if Surfer hits Supes with red sunlight in the beginning of the match?
he'd have to know to use it. and he'd have to disconnect him from the sun.