Flash vs. The Runner

Both the fast or near-fastest characters in their comic.

Who would win in
A:a fight
B:a race

Runner
Runner

Runner stomps in both. Zoom is a better matchup, IMO.

In a fight, The Runner.

In a race, depends which Flash. Barry Allen smoking Superman semi-recently was very impressive. Plus Runner and Makkari already lost a race to a tribute version of Barry Allen.

Runner.
Runner Vs DC Hermes(who made a complete fool out of flash) would be better

Originally posted by Enyalus
In a fight, The Runner.

In a race, depends which Flash. Barry Allen smoking Superman semi-recently was very impressive. Plus Runner and Makkari already lost a race to a tribute version of Barry Allen.

In a fight, the Runner. He's ALMOST as fast, but with much higher stats. Speed tricks would be fun and give Wally a fighting chance, but unless he's in Anti-Monitor busting mode he ain't gonna win.

In a race, the Flash. He's simply faster.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Didn't he leave and not actually beat the both of them before the race finished?

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
Runner.
Runner Vs DC Hermes(who made a complete fool out of flash) would be better

DC Hermes faced the Flash when he was much, much slower. It wasn't until Waid got ahold of him, had him go through the Return of Barry Allen and all his speed force revelations that he really started kicking it up.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Yeah, Runner was erm...disqualified I think.

Not exactly. Buried Alien (Barry Allen) was winning the race, had pulled ahead of both Makkari and the Runner, but saw that another contestant was trying to hurt Makkari and instead of going for the win disabled the guy. By the time he was done, it was too late to hope to win.

Makkari eventually won that race by tapping into the Grosembeek method, which allowed him to achieve lightspeed or so (according to the narration), which allowed him to pull ahead of the Runner.

Runner explained that the problem with the method was that once one employed it, one couldn't slow back down to normal speeds. Buried Alien and Makkari went off to find a way to get him back to normal.

Most of that appears to have been ignored/retconned, as Makkari was back in Gaiman's Eternals mini, and then the ongoing series that followed it.

Yeah. Makkari 'became light' or something like that...Grunwald's writing was always weird and stupid.

But thanks. I didn't go back to look at it before answering. 👆

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Originally posted by Enyalus
Yeah. Makkari 'became light' or something like that...Grunwald's writing was always weird and stupid.

I really, really liked Gruenwald's writing actually. His Quasar series sort of lost it towards the end (and the Starblast crossover was awful), but he put out a lot of great stuff, and "Cosmos In Collision" remains, in my eyes, one of the best cosmic epics Marvel has ever done (and far better than its more popular contemporary, Infinity Gauntlet).

But thanks. I didn't go back to look at it before answering. 👆

No worries, my pleasure.

Originally posted by Desaad
DC Hermes faced the Flash when he was much, much slower. It wasn't until Waid got ahold of him, had him go through the Return of Barry Allen and all his speed force revelations that he really started kicking it up.

Not to the best of my knowledge, not since Wally started increasing his speed again.

Of course Hermes has borderline reality manipulating abilities and is a god, so I'm not going to say that Flash would win in a fight. Just that, speed wise, I'd imagine that Flash is at least as fast these days.

Exactly. I mean, Wally couldn't go past light speed until Zero Hour. His race against Hermes means pretty much nothing.

I think at the time of the fight he was limited to maybe 2 or 3 times the speed of sound. That's what it was after Crisis on Infinite Earths anyway.

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Runner in Both.

Runner would outpower and outrun Flash