Soul Reaver vs. Master Sword (Actually it's Raziel vs. Link)

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
This is where the similarities between his version of the game and the actual version diverge. 😛

He's claimed mist is impossible to damage, and that Kain can use mist to regain a severed limb, he once claimed Kain could recreate the big bang. He's claimed Kain has total immunity to mental ****etry, that Kain could mindrape MewTwo (related), he's used repel shield as a no-limit fallacy (to use his own argument against him, all it stops are "tiny slow moving bolts"😉, has claimed Kain has limitless power due to a vague magic regulation quote which actually has a limit in it. He's claimed he can use this to regulate the magic of others, as well.

Kain is pretty kool, has some pretty good powers, but BT wanks him harder than I could ever wank Link if I had four arms. 😛

lol they dont diverge at all, I am just thinking outside of the box, its pretty much the same as claiming Kain or link can swing their swords in different directions than shown in the game. The big bang stuff is the only ridiculous statements based on a deduction of the games powers, I did not invent the power, I may simply be overhyping its potential but its not as bad as you, your using math on an illogical object to try and give link a consistent strength that would allow the little guy to toss aircraft carriers 🙄 thing is you consistently bring it up, I rarely bring up Kains magic regulation.

I dont use the repel shield as a no limit fallacy and Kain has shown mind resistances, so your just complaing because you think its incredulous. Its not actually vague, the game points out its regulation, I am using the defintion of what regulation is combined with Kains powers to create what its likely an unlikely event such as a big bang recreation.

lol, rubbish. You wank link consistently across several forums and bring up daft feats,at least 99% of what I have said about Kain is legit with the 1% being a no limit fallacy based on word meanings.

Originally posted by BloodRain
Ive spent what must be a total of 50 pages of BT drilling LoK facts into my head, all the main things said are legit eg: moving heavy blocks and an array of powers etc.

Exactly, its only the deduction stuff thats ridiculous but then, so its 1000 ton supersonic link 😉

Im surprised all fanboys haven't got a such a bad case of wankers cramp that they'd find it too hard to even type >.>

Everyone here, yes, everyone, is a fanboy/girl. If you're on a website, debating which character can beat the crap out of which, you meet all criteria.

I'd still need about six arms to keep up with BT's Kain wank.

I am no fanboy, you only dub me as such because I debate Kain more so than any other character and I make arguments that regardless of evidence you would claim as ridiculous. On the other hand, you have a link hat IRL, I know because I have seen it in one of your pics.

I am no fanboy,

regardless of evidence you would claim as ridiculous.

you have a link hat IRL, I know because I have seen it in one of your pics.

Originally posted by Burning thought
thing is you consistently bring it up, I rarely bring up Kains magic regulation.

This is because you never make an arguments for Kain or bring up any evidence. You just say things about him and try to downplay feats on everyone else, or ignore them.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
...Lol?
What evidence? You rarely post any, and if you do, it becomes obvious the ridiculous length you exaggerate Kain's abilities to.

My belled cap?

Bloodrain just said my evidence seems legit, I even made the respect thread to Kain (twice) and put evidence in that so all this "rarely post any" BS is getting old. At least I am not posting gameplay mechanics of an ancient game and saying "link reflects island destroying boltz from invisible ganon!" or assume feats when they dont exist like the infamous whip "feat" 🙄

probably, looks like a green link cap. Tiz certain proof of your irl link love 😉

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
This is because you never make an arguments for Kain or bring up any evidence. You just say things about him and try to downplay feats on everyone else, or ignore them.

Theres 1 vid in this thread as evidence and 2 in my Bio , Screampaste posted the only other piece of evidence I actually need in this thread at least so I suggest you quieten down laddie.

At least I am not posting gameplay mechanics of an ancient game and saying "link reflects island destroying boltz from invisible ganon!"

Link beat Ganon you mean, thats the canon event. Whether he went invisible or not, or how Link beat him is unkown as all we see is the gameplay. Not to mension the fact he was not consistently invisible.

Also "link beating invisible ganon" was not the end of your argument, you added Ganon being more powerful tan Raziel which is not shown in your gameplay.

Whether he went invisible or not, or how Link beat him is unkown as all we see is the gameplay. Not to mension the fact he was not consistently invisible.

Also "link beating invisible ganon" was not the end of your argument, you added Ganon being more powerful tan Raziel which is not shown in your gameplay.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
He's only visible when you hit him.

That's shown in the canon.

So its not even canon that Link hit an invisible Ganon, he could have took a handfull of grit from the ground and tossed it at him, or he could have just predicted where those slow moving bolts were coming from, not exactly hard since thats how the player predicts where Ganon is.

Not in that battle. Nor in any power Link reflected which was the main point.

Those bolts are only slow in gameplay. If you want to claim otherwise, provide some evidence.

So its not even canon that Link hit an invisible Ganon, he could have took a handfull of grit from the ground and tossed it at him,

Link didn't, and if he did you'd need to prove that sincei t's your assertion.

HOWEVER: You've damned your own argument ten times now.

Link has beaten a far superior foe to Raziel who was invisible. Raziel's spell takes time to cast anyway, AND Link could just throw some dirt at Raziel even if it were a problem. G.G.

those slow moving bolts

Those bolts are only slow in gameplay. If you want to claim otherwise, provide some evidence.

I am claiming they are slow in gameplay, theres no feat of them outside of that therefore their either slow bolts, or featless altogether. Either one is fine by me.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Link didn't, and if he did you'd need to prove that sincei t's your assertion.

HOWEVER: You've damned your own argument ten times now.

Link has beaten a far superior foe to Raziel who was invisible. Raziel's spell takes time to cast anyway, AND Link could just throw some dirt at Raziel even if it were a problem. G.G.

Well actually we only know he beat Ganon, we dont exactly know how which is incredibly important.

Not at all laddie.

Nope hes not, hes beaten Ganon who used 1 attack....thats it. Thats either extremely slow and predictable unlike Raziel. He couldnt, Raziels too fast and can make distance between them.

Nope hes not, hes beaten Ganon who used 1 attack....thats it. Thats either extremely slow and predictable unlike Raziel.

Raziels too fast and can make distance between them.

But yeah, keep screwing your own arguments, it's funny to watch.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
1986 gameplay mechanics: They are not a valid argument.

You keep saying this, but have no proof of it. Sure, Raziel's a little acrobatic, bit Link is still more acrobatic, as well.

But yeah, keep screwing your own arguments, it's funny to watch.

The invisiblity is also a gameplay mechanic just like the little orbs, you can either take both or neither.

hes not, Links nowhere near as quick as Raziel or as agile.

Link gets ripped apart by an invisible entity beyond him in any real comparison.

The invisiblity is also a gameplay mechanic

hes not, Links nowhere near as quick as Raziel or as agile.

Link gets ripped apart by an invisible entity beyond him in any real comparison.

^I lol'd.

Can you beat the spin attack yet? No? You haven't even defeated the most simple innitial argument. This is just one of Link's hundreds of I win buttons in this thread, and you can't even beat one.

No I think both the fact Ganon fires pathetic bolts and invisibility are both the abilities we know he uses against Link. If you want to argue their speed then show proof they were quicker in a cutscene.

Not really, Links little legs could never keep up with Raziels leaps that could get his far away.

I have defeated all of them, the spin attack is redundant. And stop your sad little acts of denile, you cant even debate it seems, you never do.

pathetic bolts

Not really, Links little legs could never keep up with Raziels leaps that could get his far away.

I have defeated all of them,

the spin attack is redundant.

It's also too fast, powerful, and far reaching for Raziel to even imagine a defense.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Island destroying bolts*

The smallest Link in any Zelda game, with the shortest legs is more agile than Raziel.
YouTube video

No, you have not.

Redundant in that Link has a million ways to win, and this is just one, sure.

It's also too fast, powerful, and far reaching for Raziel to even imagine a defense.

Not proven yet sorry 😉 nice spam though.

Well apart from being the most toonforce Link of them all (thus negating it anyway), I am not seeing this agility. Also since when was this a Toon link in this fight?

Oh aye, denile again I see? 😆

He has no way to win, too small, slow and his sword is weak in comparison to the soul reaver. It hardly gives him anything in this fight as well, I like how your trying to use techniques, not the power of the sword to win this and still failing horribly.

Its short range, predictable and easy for Raziel to evade you were supposed to type.

Well apart from being the most toonforce Link of them all (thus negating it anyway), I am not seeing this agility.

He has no way to win, too small, slow and his sword is weak in comparison to the soul reaver. It hardly gives him anything in this fight as well, I like how your trying to use techniques, not the power of the sword to win this and still failing horribly.

What's sad is Link could use the spin attack with a butter knife and win.

Edit: Even pretending anything in that video is toonforce is hilarious. That's one of the saddest endings in any game ever.