Originally posted by MindsetHe killed the most powerful entities in the marvel universe including the LT,Galactus,Eternity and at least one celestial.I haven't acctually read the comics about the HOTU but I'm looking for them and I have read a lot about the series.
What did you read that put Thanos w/ HOTU over Beyonder?
Originally posted by Black bolt z
He killed the most powerful entities in the marvel universe including the LT,Galactus,Eternity and at least one celestial.I haven't acctually read the comics about the HOTU but I'm looking for them and I have read a lot about the series.
Then you're looking for "Marvel: The End"
and big B could have accomplished those feats mentioned with ease.
Originally posted by Mr Master
TOAA ... then classic Beyonder & THOTI stalemate.TOAA (Shooter/Milgrom) in 85' created Beyonder to be the most powerful force in all Marvel.
TOAA (Starlin/Milgrom) in 03' created THOTI to be the most powerful force in all Marvel.
They were both supreme powers above the LT.
So ... stalemate. 馃檪
I agree to an extent. The only problem with this line of reasoning is this.... THOTI was the POWER of TOAA (Starlin/Milgrom) the beyonder was never the power of TOAA. Thus, in a battle imo.. the one backed by the TOAA overall omnipotent power would prevail. .
Originally posted by Mr Master
TOAA ... then classic Beyonder & THOTI stalemate.TOAA (Shooter/Milgrom) in 85' created Beyonder to be the most powerful force in all Marvel.
TOAA (Starlin/Milgrom) in 03' created THOTI to be the most powerful force in all Marvel.
They were both supreme powers above the LT.
So ... stalemate. 馃檪
PR Beyonder (before the MM fight)
PR Molecule Man
HoM Wanda
THOTI
Infinity Being
Alien Entity
FP Sise-Neg
.. are all equals? And only TOAA is above them
^^ 馃憜 Which is why this ends in stalemate.
That aside ...
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosihow is this? The THOTI was the direct power of TOAA.
The Beyonder wasn't the power of TOAA..
he was from a totally seperate place all his own.
I always enjoy your stuff KT, there's no doubt you're a true debater,
but we'll go nuts discussing this particular subject,
believe me it's been dissected in several threads.
So instead,
I found a thread from 08' where this debate went the full mile,
it was basically myself and like one or two others
vs everyone ... concerning THOTI vs classic Beyonder.
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=477511&highlight=thotu+vs+forumid:77
I think this explains every possibility when differentiating both sides.
Did the Infinity being really create the LT?
^^ ... not officially ...
... but according to logic
after we set the historical cosmological Marvel stage in place?
Yes.
The Infinity Being was TOAA's tool to create eveything.
Remember, TOAA can't actually show us their pencil doing the job,
so they use in-comic fictional characters to do their work.
TOOA gave us a glimpse of how they operate, (FF#511)
but to give the cosmological genre an interesting substance,
they use this method to create reality/stories. (which is the way it should be)
Originally posted by AsbestosFlaygon
Ok, so...PR Beyonder (before the MM fight)
PR Molecule Man
HoM Wanda
THOTI
Infinity Being
Alien Entity
FP Sise-Neg.. are all equals? And only TOAA is above them
Originally posted by Mr Master
^^ ... not officially ...... but according to logic
after we set the historical cosmological Marvel stage in place?Yes.
1. TOAA
2. PR Beyonder/THOTI (Supreme powers above "Gods"馃槈
3. PR Molecule Man (ultimate potential, reached Mankind's final stage of evolution)
4. Infinity Being/Alien Entity/FP Sis-Neg/HOM Wanda (Gods)
I thought that IYO LT was > HoM Scarlet Witch?
Marvel hierarchy is getting confusing.
